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Getting rid of persistent viruses

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Standard medicine offers few answers to viral infections. So what do alternative practitioners offer to get rid of persistent viral infections which last many weeks or months ? We have a Spring season virus here right now which has symptoms of sneezing, sore eyes, back and body aches, fatigue, lethargy, gastric disturbance, sweating…you name it !  It goes on for ever. Anti-histamines for hay fever do not work. The local pharmacists know about the virus because of the number of customers who are seeking remedies right now. The pharmacists offer Vitamin C in large doses and B Complex vitamins…they don’t work very well either. Drinking plenty of water alleviates but does not remove the virus. So here is the opportunity to air your views on remedies for very persistent viral infections.  The world waits !  :-) Bye,

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Standard medicine offers few answers to viral infections. So what do alternative practitioners offer to get rid of persistent viral infections which last many weeks or months ? We have a Spring season virus here right now which has symptoms of sneezing, sore eyes, back and body aches, fatigue, lethargy, gastric disturbance, sweating…you name it !  It goes on for ever. Anti-histamines for hay fever do not work. The local pharmacists know about the virus because of the number of customers who are seeking remedies right now. The pharmacists offer Vitamin C in large doses and B Complex vitamins…they don’t work very well either. Drinking plenty of water alleviates but does not remove the virus. So here is the opportunity to air your views on remedies for very persistent viral infections.  The world waits !  :-) Bye,

Cyruta_Plus (spelling?) can be good and some antioxidants include Curcumin extracts which some studies indicated could help with viruses. Hope this helps. — Carl Lovell Power Marketing http://netnow.micron.net/~cjlovell

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Standard medicine offers few answers to viral infections. So what do alternative practitioners offer to get rid of persistent viral infections which last many weeks or months ? We have a Spring season virus here right now which has symptoms of sneezing, sore eyes, back and body aches, fatigue, lethargy, gastric disturbance, sweating…you name it !  It goes on for ever.

Hay fever is not caused by a virus. It is generally considered to be an allergy caused by exposure to one or another airborn allergens. Most of the symptoms you have described are allergic in origin. I’ll tell you what I do. I don’t believe in viruses at all. I have practice medicine for 30 yrears and have only been sick because of viruses two or three times in all of those years. Somewhere in my medical journey I found that there is an immune system and that when it operates optimally people just do not get sick. The main problem, I beleive, is belief in illness and chronic recurrent stress. It cripples the immune system and this makes it possibe for viruses (and bacteria) to enter into the body to take hold and grow. Over my 30 years of practiced I noticed that there are two major groups of people those that get sick and those that rarely get sick. When I started looking at this more closely I found, not to my surprise, however, that those people who most frequently get sick believe in sickness. They believe that viruses will find them in crowed rooms and that viruses will cause them to become sick. Interestingly enough, as you might already suspect, those people who were rarely sick also rarely believed in illness. They were often too busy living life, enjoying and mentally and emotionally growning to have time to think about being ill. In the group that was freqently sick they used their frequent illnesses as evidence to justify their belief in illness. They used other peoples illnesses to also justify their belief that illness exists. On the other hand, those people who were rarely, if ever, ill were often mystified as to how others around them were sick so often. They spent so little time thinking about being sick that it often surprised them to hear that a friend was sick. It has been said that we should be careful of what we ask for, because we are likely to get it. With increased understanding of psychoneuroimmunology we begin to see that this is true internally as well as externally. If you program your system to believe in illness then your immune system will accept invasion and infection as an expected event. The stress mechanism is designed to protect us, but if we are chronically stressed it begins to break down. Since the stress mechanism and the immune system are essentially one and the same system, the immune sysem also becomes overwhelmed and can be impaiered and hence unable to resist invasion. For those of you who are interested, I have more information about this on my website, Wellness on the Web, at http://www.planet-hawaii.com/wellnet go to the Table of Contents and look in the Prevent section for documents on "What is Wellness?". You could also check out the section on Stress for a new and possibly different approach to stress.

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Try using Colloidal Silver – more info can be found at http://www.colloidal-silver.com/ -eric

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Research has shown several essential oils (extracts from various plants) to be anti-viral. Unlike antibiotics and such, no evidence has shown that viruses cannot mutate to form immunity to these oils. Additional information avaliable.

Hmm…I am not quite certain what you are saying in this statement but I interpret it as meaning that there are oils extracted from plants which have some effect on active viral infections rather than acting as agents to prevent infections. Viruses certainly mutate and these oils, if effective, could be useful if they continued to be effective against viruses which had mutated. Of course it could be argued that most viruses have mutated many times already. I think that additional information will be necessary to support those statements and assess the merits of these plant oil extracts. Bye,

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – accompany pesticide exposures…that is weed killers, insecticides fungicides, etc.  Spring is one of the heaviest pesticide application times of the year around here.  Without the aid of a virus (and they certainly weaken the immune system enough to make great ground for viral, etal infection) effects of many pesticides are very similar to viral outbreaks.  Drinking lots of water is high on my list after exposures.  Effects of pesticide exposures tend to run on long after the flu should be a memory.  I have been amazed over the years I have been ’sensitive’ to toxics at how liberally and devotedly that various dangerous (chlorophenoxy and organophosphate, etal) pesticides are applied inside and outside every category of building and grounds I can think of.  And applied without notice, notification or any thought of effects or attempts at safe means of pest control.  There are other toxics in general use that are very hard on the body…solvents, petrochemicals, paints, cleaning and hygeine products, etal. Chronic exposure can lead to mcs problems. If you find that you are reacting to toxics, there are many organizations, publications and health practitioners who can help you.  Good Luck! Peggy : Have you had a look into Epstien-Barr viruses or Cocksakie B? : : The symptoms sound very similar although there are many combinations : causing confusion regarding likeness. : : Best regards :  Jason : : : : Standard medicine offers few answers to viral infections. : : So what do alternative practitioners offer to get rid of persistent : viral infections which last many weeks or months ? : : We have a Spring season virus here right now which has symptoms of : sneezing, sore eyes, back and body aches, fatigue, lethargy, gastric : disturbance, sweating…you name it !  It goes on for ever. : : Anti-histamines for hay fever do not work. : : The local pharmacists know about the virus because of the number : of customers who are seeking remedies right now. The pharmacists : offer Vitamin C in large doses and B Complex vitamins…they don’t : work very well either. : : Drinking plenty of water alleviates but does not remove the virus. : : So here is the opportunity to air your views on remedies for very : persistent viral infections.  The world waits !  :-) : : Bye, : : —

Research has shown several essential oils (extracts from various plants) to be anti-viral. Unlike antibiotics and such, no evidence has shown that viruses cannot mutate to form immunity to these oils. Additional information avaliable. Bob Mark "The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame, in diet, and in the cause and prevention of disease." Thomas Edison

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Research has shown several essential oils (extracts from various plants) to be anti-viral. Unlike antibiotics and such, no evidence has shown that viruses cannot mutate to form immunity to these oils. Additional information avaliable. Hmm…I am not quite certain what you are saying in this statement but I interpret it as meaning that there are oils extracted from plants which have some effect on active viral infections rather than acting as agents to prevent infections. Viruses certainly mutate and these oils, if effective, could be useful if they continued to be effective against viruses which had mutated. Of course it could be argued that most viruses have mutated many times already. I think that additional information will be necessary to support those statements and assess the merits of these plant oil extracts. Bye,

In 1985 Dr. Jean C. Lapraz said he could not find a single bacteria or virus that could live in the presence of the essential oils of cinnamon or oregano. Eivdently many other oils display the same charactistic. The oils are the product of natural chemical factories (plants, trees). These creations no scientist can fully understand let alone create from scratch, transform the various elements of sun, minerals, water, and so on. The oils are also very rich in oxygen. The fact that oils work on the already mutated viruses seems a given in your arguement. How can we mere humans be so egotistical as to believe that our science is supperior to the ultimate wisdom found in nature? Which scientist can create the miracle of life? Does life’s ability to adapt (as in viruses mutating to adapt to our efforts to destroy their lives), prove the folly in our attempts to manipulate natural substances? Be your own judge! Bob Mark "The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame, in diet, and in the cause and prevention of disease." Thomas Edison

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The local pharmacists know about the virus because of the number of customers who are seeking remedies right now. The pharmacists offer Vitamin C in large doses and B Complex vitamins…they don’t work very well either. Drinking plenty of water alleviates but does not remove the virus. So here is the opportunity to air your views on remedies for very persistent viral infections.  The world waits !  :-) Bye,

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accompany pesticide exposures…that is weed killers, insecticides fungicides, etc.  Spring is one of the heaviest pesticide application times of the year around here.  Without the aid of a virus (and they certainly weaken the immune system enough to make great ground for viral, etal infection) effects of many pesticides are very similar to viral outbreaks.  Drinking lots of water is high on my list after exposures.  Effects of pesticide exposures tend to run on long after the flu should be a memory.  I have been amazed over the years I have been ’sensitive’ to toxics at how liberally and devotedly that various dangerous (chlorophenoxy and organophosphate, etal) pesticides are applied inside and outside every category of building and grounds I can think of.  And applied without notice, notification or any thought of effects or attempts at safe means of pest control.  There are other toxics in general use that are very hard on the body…solvents, petrochemicals, paints, cleaning and hygeine products, etal. Chronic exposure can lead to mcs problems.   If you find that you are reacting to toxics, there are many organizations, publications and health practitioners who can help you.  Good Luck! Peggy

: Have you had a look into Epstien-Barr viruses or Cocksakie B? : : The symptoms sound very similar although there are many combinations : causing confusion regarding likeness. : : Best regards :  Jason : :

: : Standard medicine offers few answers to viral infections. : : So what do alternative practitioners offer to get rid of persistent : viral infections which last many weeks or months ? : : We have a Spring season virus here right now which has symptoms of : sneezing, sore eyes, back and body aches, fatigue, lethargy, gastric : disturbance, sweating…you name it !  It goes on for ever. : : Anti-histamines for hay fever do not work. : : The local pharmacists know about the virus because of the number : of customers who are seeking remedies right now. The pharmacists : offer Vitamin C in large doses and B Complex vitamins…they don’t : work very well either. : : Drinking plenty of water alleviates but does not remove the virus. : : So here is the opportunity to air your views on remedies for very : persistent viral infections.  The world waits !  :-) : : Bye, : : —

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Somewhere in my medical journey I found that there is an immune system and that when it operates optimally people just do not get sick. The main problem, I beleive, is belief in illness and chronic recurrent stress. It cripples the immune system and this makes it possibe for viruses (and bacteria) to enter into the body to take hold and grow. Over my 30 years of practiced I noticed that there are two major groups of people those that get sick and those that rarely get sick. When I started looking at this more closely I found, not to my surprise, however, that those people who most frequently get sick believe in sickness. They believe that viruses will find them in crowed rooms and that viruses will cause them to become sick. Interestingly enough, as you might already suspect, those people who were rarely sick also rarely believed in illness. They were often too busy living life, enjoying and mentally and emotionally growning to have time to think about being ill. In the group that was freqently sick they used their frequent illnesses as evidence to justify their belief in illness. They used other peoples illnesses to also justify their belief that illness exists. On the other hand, those people who were rarely, if ever, ill were often mystified as to how others around them were sick so often. They spent so little time thinking about being sick that it often surprised them to hear that a friend was sick. It has been said that we should be careful of what we ask for, because we are likely to get it. With increased understanding of psychoneuroimmunology we begin to see that this is true internally as well as externally. If you program your system to believe in illness then your immune system will accept invasion and infection as an expected event. The stress mechanism is designed to protect us, but if we are chronically stressed it begins to break down. Since the stress mechanism and the immune system are essentially one and the same system, the immune sysem also becomes overwhelmed and can be impaiered and hence unable to resist invasion. For those of you who are interested, I have more information about this on my website, Wellness on the Web, at http://www.planet-hawaii.com/wellnet go to the Table of Contents and look in the Prevent section for documents on "What is Wellness?". You could also check out the section on Stress for a new and possibly different approach to stress.

It is refreshing to hear a longtime physician cite the _belief in illness_ factor, along with the effects of stress.  I am often hesitant to say this and the following out of concern I might be attacked as irresponsible:  I personally observe that one of the net effects of the focus of modern medicine, our government, (and others with something to gain) on _testing as the basis for preventive health care_ is to promote this kind of paranoid belief in illness which becomes self-fulfilling.  In the worst case, a positive test result can traumatize the person, ruin their job, upset their personal and family relationships, lead to expensive and dangerous surgery, and basically destroy the quality of whatever years of life remain, and despite the cost may still be measured as a success or even _cure_ in terms of five year survival.  Is this scenario a rare exception amidst a sea of blazing success ?  I don’t think so. But all I would have to do is cite one of many tests that have this frequent outcome and I would be brandished a menace to public health. Joe Reid, O.M.D.

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Have you had a look into Epstien-Barr viruses or Cocksakie B? The symptoms sound very similar although there are many combinations causing confusion regarding likeness. Best regards  Jason – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Standard medicine offers few answers to viral infections. So what do alternative practitioners offer to get rid of persistent viral infections which last many weeks or months ? We have a Spring season virus here right now which has symptoms of sneezing, sore eyes, back and body aches, fatigue, lethargy, gastric disturbance, sweating…you name it !  It goes on for ever. Anti-histamines for hay fever do not work. The local pharmacists know about the virus because of the number of customers who are seeking remedies right now. The pharmacists offer Vitamin C in large doses and B Complex vitamins…they don’t work very well either. Drinking plenty of water alleviates but does not remove the virus. So here is the opportunity to air your views on remedies for very persistent viral infections.  The world waits !  :-) Bye,

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