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Safety of Lantus?

Question:

To be specific, you are talking about Lilly’s Iletin II line (still in production). I was on Iletin I (discontinued on Jan 1, 2000).

Actually it was stopped production in 1998 and the final expiry was May2000 I was taking 100% beef.

No Sir you weren’t.  Iletin, and Iletin I from 1982 on, was 30-40% pork.  Even Lilly didn’t know how much, except there were more beef than pork pancreases thrown into the process.  Those barrows and gilts pancreas’ were too available in Indiana. I don’t see what this has to do with Dave Groves or anyone’s "Beef bandwagon".

If it weren’t for DG and yourself, with your expired piece of Beef propaganda: http://www.beefinsulin.com more users of Iletin I would have just bought Iletin II and at least for the Regular found an insulin, not unlike Iletin I.  Like I said in an earlier post, CP Neutral being buffered is as much of a firecracker as Humulin R.  Of course YMMV! After spending 37 years on a beef/regular mix, I find I can alternate Iletin II Lente during the day jab, and CP Hypurin Lente for a smoother basal for the nite jab.   If anyone is on such a bandwagon, it has to be you.  I no longer take the stuff.  I was just recounting my medical history on the subject of insulin.

Which Lilly publication do you want me to cite? Until they marketed Iletin II in 1981 it was simply Iletin.   That was 30-40% pork.  After Iletin II came out in 1981, the 30-40% pork mix was called Iletin I till it ceased production in 1998. The 1980 PDR refers only to Iletin.  That’s 30-40% pork.  That’s the same mixed pancreas production since 1922. The 1982 PDR refers to Iletin I(beef/pork) and Iletin II(pork). Prior to 1982 pure pork or pure beef was special order for the rare cases of allergy. As quoted from the LIily manual published for the Medical Professional: "Ever since the development of the first methods of large scale production of Iletin(Insulin,Lilly), both beef and pork pancreas have been the source of supply, and the product regularly available since 1922 has been derived from both.  For the exceptional allergic case that exibits hypersensitivities to Insulin, Special Iletin (Insulin,Lilly) derived solely from beef pancreas, and Iletin (Insulin,Lilly) Pork are available on order through the usual trade channels." You too Sir are like Biggs and DG, one who just pulls this information out of your ass and spouts it to the detriment of long term(30yrs+) T1’s! At least here it WAS beef Lente, prior to 1973.  The NPH was beef/pork.  Makes one wonder if Ultralente and Lente sold by Lilly prior to 1973 wasn’t manufactured by Novo.  This was the case for CP Hypurin Lente prior to 2001.  It was made by Novo Nordisk, hence the long tall vial. Since all the insulin from Novo that I ever got came in a more usually proportioned vial, I don’t see how you can reach such a conclusion.

Look at the picture on CP.s website: http://www.cppharma.com/ Also, the vials I got in from CP prior to 2001 (before your time with that company) had Novo’s Lente in the same shape of vial as found here in the USA, while their Neutral (Regular) was in that long tall vial you refer to.  How does that figure in your system of deductions?

I’ve been in this as long as you.  Charles Savage told me this, physically in person in 2000, just before their production of Lente started in January 2001. The Lente was in the long tall bottle and the regular was a normal sized vial. Now they’re both normal sized. Why don’t you read the book before you pontificate on adding R to NPH.  Can you follow the presentation?  Do you know enough chemistry?

I own the book. I’ve lived the life for more than 9 months with NPH.   Think about the protamine a little more.  Up to 1:1 NPH takes over the Regular.  The mixes in vials are biphasic. I’m seriously starting to doubt your experiences and supposed expertise, by the nanosecond.

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – void: I found the information on the Aventis site, and there was _nothing_ about what happens to Lantus at high temperature ( 30

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