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Prenuptial Agreement

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Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if you divorce, that bitch will get nothing?

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hermit crab wrote: > Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if > you divorce, that bitch will get nothing?

It doesn’t matter… the courts will fuck the man up every time. The solution; don’t get married.

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hermit crab wrote: > Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if > you divorce, that bitch will get nothing?

do you actually hace anything anyone would want? — fetch mah socs saveloy!! cool forum http://iamshy.proboards50.com/index.cgi http://mspoopiepants.blogspot.com/

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hermit crab wrote: > Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if > you divorce, that bitch will get nothing?

How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if it comes to divorce? Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc?

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LisatheSequel wrote: > hermit crab wrote: >> Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if >> you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? > How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if it > comes to divorce? > Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is > vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc?

         Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along with many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is "no" more often than we’d like to think. August Pamplona — Women bring men they like tasks in much the same way cats put dead mice on their owner’s pillows. – Lola on a.s.s. a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut Proud member of the reality-based community. The address in this message’s ‘From’ field, in accordance with individual.net’s TOS, is real. However, almost all messages reaching this address are deleted without human intervention. In other words, if you e-mail me there, I will not receive your message. To make sure that e-mail messages actually reach me, make sure that my e-mail address is not hot.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -August Pamplona wrote: > LisatheSequel wrote: >> hermit crab wrote: >>> Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if >>> you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? >> How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if >> it comes to divorce? >> Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is >> vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? >         Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along with > many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is "no" > more often than we’d like to think.

I can only say to any person who’s thinking of marriage, pause for a moment, look at your SO and ask yourself, "do I love this person enough that if they cheated on me, divorced me, took my children away until I see them only on the weekends, don’t get married and I have to part with up to 2/3 of my income to support them until the day that they do… am I willing to accept those consequences as a worst case scenario?  Do I still want to marry them as much?" And if the answer is "no", don’t get married. Geez.  There should be a class.  There’s a class for everything else.

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hermit crab wrote: > Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if > you divorce, that bitch will get nothing?

This is the problem. If you have to get a prenup, there’s no point in getting married. Because it’s pretty much a promise that you’re going to get divorced and when you do, you don’t want her profiting from it. But, it’s also a necessary thing. Because women are fickle and greedy. They just wake up one day, in a perfectly fine, happy marriage, and decide they have had enough and want a second bite at the apple with someone else. There’s absolutely no keeping them happy to prevent that from happening. It’s just dumb luck. And just because she hasn’t crushed your world enough, she’ll want to take you to the cleaners too. Your only "hope", if you can call it that, is for her to get morbidly obese and figure she’ll never be able to get anyone else. Truth is, women never do anything for the man they already have. If your overweight wife starts working out, it’s not for you. It’s for your REPLACEMENT. Women have the belief that they are giving their 50% share in a marriage just by being there (while you are grapsing at straws for ways to keep her happy). Oprah and feminism are largely responsible for this phenomenon. So, in short, don’t get married. Don’t have kids. Don’t date women. Most of us here don’t have these options anyway. If you do get married, get a prenup, but that’s an admission that the marriage is going to fail and that the woman you’re with is a gold digging whore. So you might not want to marry her in the first place.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LisatheSequel wrote: > August Pamplona wrote: > > LisatheSequel wrote: > >> hermit crab wrote: > >>> Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if > >>> you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? > >> How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if > >> it comes to divorce? > >> Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is > >> vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? > >         Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along with > > many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is "no" > > more often than we’d like to think. > I can only say to any person who’s thinking of marriage, pause for a > moment, look at your SO and ask yourself, "do I love this person enough > that if they cheated on me, divorced me, took my children away until I > see them only on the weekends, don’t get married and I have to part with > up to 2/3 of my income to support them until the day that they do… am > I willing to accept those consequences as a worst case scenario?  Do I > still want to marry them as much?" > And if the answer is "no", don’t get married.

Exactly.  Not if you want to make it forever. What’s simultaneously wonderful and horrible about youth and relationships is that your sexuality kicks in about 15 years before your brain function does.  I honestly think this is a survival of the species type of function for us though.  We have to be horny enough and stupid enough to ACTUALLY GET TOGETHER TO REPRODUCE.  Once the brain starts kicking in, it takes over and makes things significantly more difficult.  It’s like the rest of life is spent cleaning up the messes created in youth. [This isn't applicable for marriage and pre-nuptials, but for those who skipped the horny & stupid phase, my best advice to you is to disengage your brain for awhile and go out there and pick up some horny and stupid ass -- JUST WEAR A CONDOM!] > Geez.  There should be a class.  There’s a class for everything else.

You said it.  The classes should last at least a year, attendance must be at least 85%, and it should cost a lot of money.  Think about it… you’re being prepared for a lifelong partnership, active involvement in the partnership, and the potential to lose everything (1/2 minimum) if things don’t work out.   rgds, lisa

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—–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– Hash: SHA1 In article <k6d0g1loecup3gov7mavgno4secuomb…@4ax.com> Hardpan <hard…@yahoo.com> wrote: >But assuming the marriage didn’t last, just like over 50 % don’t last,

50% of *marriages* end in divorce.  A far higher number of *women* will stay married to their husband.  A man generally marries a *woman*, not a marriage. Marriage as a whole gets a bad reputation because of a few serial divorcees, who hop from one marriage to the next. >Just go to the divorce forums and see what bad shape those poor >suckers are in after a divorce, which is usually called for by the >wife. You’ll think twice about getting married without a pre-nup then.

Yes, that much is true: nobody who gets married, plans on getting taken to the cleaners.  Everyone thinks theirs will last, and that in the case of divorce, their spouse will act in good faith.  Bzzzt! It’s a good idea to learn from the mistakes of others, and to compensate preemptively for one’s own situational irrationality.  Get that pre-nup *despite* believing you won’t need it. – — A PC without Windows is like ice cream without ketchup. —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDAHA5/FmLrNfLpjMRAvSTAJ0ae6rxklPzh0GiH1Lkz8z2nxsHuQCdGTS0 y6FlntWhTcv9hE9Mia0YhSQ= =soT8 —–END PGP SIGNATURE—–

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Bernd Jendrissek wrote: > —–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– > Hash: SHA1 > In article <k6d0g1loecup3gov7mavgno4secuomb…@4ax.com> Hardpan > <hard…@yahoo.com> wrote: >>But assuming the marriage didn’t last, just like over 50 % don’t last, > 50% of *marriages* end in divorce.  A far higher number of *women* will > stay married to their husband.  A man generally marries a *woman*, not a > marriage. > Marriage as a whole gets a bad reputation because of a few serial > divorcees, who hop from one marriage to the next.

That’s all me. Sorry about that! — -=Lola Each of you has so much magnetic personality that iron-rich meteorites from distant galaxies are being pulled toward the earth, ensuring the total annihilation of future generations who, I think you’ll agree, have it coming. (Scott Adams)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LisatheSequel wrote: > Gray Loser wrote: > > > > How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with > > > > you if it comes to divorce? > > That’s nice in theory, but you can’t really tell that in advance, > > except for a fringe of obvious cases. > Not true.  See below. > > > > Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential > > > > partner is vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? > > Probably 50-80% of people are capable of the above behaviors.  It’s > > impossible to filter them out in advance (although you can avoid the > > obviously bad apples). > > It’s like saying you should never form a business partnership with > > someone you think you’re likely to have a falling out with.  Yet > > nearly every business partnership that grows to a significant size > > has, somewhere in its history, an episode of internal > > strife/disagreement that leads one of the original partners to > > leave (often after considerable political and/or legal wrangling). > What I think would be ideal:  Knowing your potential mate long > enough, observing their dealings with other people long enough… > knowing their track record, iow, so you can reasonably predict if > they’re going to stab you in the back when and if the time comes. > I.e. How they treat other people is probably how they’re going to > treat you.  The old saying about men comes to me:  the way a man > treats his mother is how he’ll treat his wife. > And note, I meant trying to find these things out before you get into > a romantic relationship with someone and your vision is clouded.  An > observation period, if you will.  Preferably a long one.  A > years-long friendship.  And I know there are people who will say > that’s unreasonable, it takes too long.  Well so do the consequences > of a bad marriage or divorce, I say. > If you’ve known a woman, been her friend, talked to her, know her > mind, know how she reacts in such-n-such a situation, then you can > better predict how she’s going to react when things that are > important to you are on the hotplate, no? > People get married way too quickly these days and for all the wrong > reasons. First and foremost being: sex.  Feels like to me these days > two people meet, look at each other, think:  you’re pretty!  Sleep > together, think:  you make me feel good!  This is a great reason to > be together forever!  Famous last words of the dismally immature and > inexperienced.

this is the best damn thing ive read in a long long time. it is true. people go by the good feelings in their pnats thinking they want to be with someone forever. then they find out they know nothing at all about the other person or that they dont even like the other person. Be friends first. And I don’t know why on earth people don’t want to think of their mate as their good friend or even their best friend. I think if you plan to spend many years with someone every day, they had better damn well be your friend. If they aren’t then what they hell are they??? The distance between be and my sweetie is a good thing in a way as painful as it may be to be apart as with months between seeing each other it is clear there is much much more between us than just sex. We spend every day together, anywhere from several hours to all day. We do this every day. — fetch mah socs saveloy!! cool forum http://iamshy.proboards50.com/index.cgi http://mspoopiepants.blogspot.com/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -August Pamplona wrote: > lisa wrote: >> August Pamplona wrote: >>> lisa wrote: >>>> LisatheSequel wrote: >>>>> August Pamplona wrote: >>>>>> LisatheSequel wrote: >>>>>>> hermit crab wrote: >>>>>>>> Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating >>>>>>>> that if >>>>>>>> you divorce, that bitch will get nothing?

[snip] >>>> [This isn't applicable for marriage and pre-nuptials, but for those who >>>> skipped the horny & stupid phase, my best advice to you is to disengage >>>> your brain for awhile and go out there and pick up some horny and >>>> stupid ass -- JUST WEAR A CONDOM!] >>>         I don’t know if I could actually handle stupid. I certainly >>> know that I would prefer otherwise. Would merely acting stupid do? >> You or her? >         Her as our directive that the brain be disengaged already

         I dropped a "y" (maybe I need a new keyboard or something) and forgot a comma. That was supposed to be "Her, as your directive that…". [snip] August Pamplona — Women bring men they like tasks in much the same way cats put dead mice on their owner’s pillows. – Lola on a.s.s. a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut Proud member of the reality-based community. The address in this message’s ‘From’ field, in accordance with individual.net’s TOS, is real. However, almost all messages reaching this address are deleted without human intervention. In other words, if you e-mail me there, I will not receive your message. To make sure that e-mail messages actually reach me, make sure that my e-mail address is not hot.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -August Pamplona wrote: > lisa wrote: > > LisatheSequel wrote: > >>August Pamplona wrote: > >>>LisatheSequel wrote: > >>>>hermit crab wrote: > >>>>>Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if > >>>>>you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? > >>>>How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if > >>>>it comes to divorce? > >>>>Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is > >>>>vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? > >>>        Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along with > >>>many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is "no" > >>>more often than we’d like to think. > >>I can only say to any person who’s thinking of marriage, pause for a > >>moment, look at your SO and ask yourself, "do I love this person enough > >>that if they cheated on me, divorced me, took my children away until I > >>see them only on the weekends, don’t get married and I have to part with > >>up to 2/3 of my income to support them until the day that they do… am > >>I willing to accept those consequences as a worst case scenario?  Do I > >>still want to marry them as much?" > >>And if the answer is "no", don’t get married. > > Exactly.  Not if you want to make it forever. > > What’s simultaneously wonderful and horrible about youth and > > relationships is that your sexuality kicks in about 15 years before > > your brain function does.  I honestly think this is a survival of the > > species type of function for us though.  We have to be horny enough and > > stupid enough to ACTUALLY GET TOGETHER TO REPRODUCE.  Once the brain > > starts kicking in, it takes over and makes things significantly more > > difficult.  It’s like the rest of life is spent cleaning up the messes > > created in youth. > > [This isn't applicable for marriage and pre-nuptials, but for those who > > skipped the horny & stupid phase, my best advice to you is to disengage > > your brain for awhile and go out there and pick up some horny and > > stupid ass -- JUST WEAR A CONDOM!] >          I don’t know if I could actually handle stupid. I certainly > know that I would prefer otherwise. Would merely acting stupid do?

If your brain was disengaged, you wouldn’t know if she were actually stupid or just acting stupid — and you wouldn’t care. rgds, lisa – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >>Geez.  There should be a class.  There’s a class for everything else. > > You said it.  The classes should last at least a year, attendance must > > be at least 85%, and it should cost a lot of money.  Think about it… > > you’re being prepared for a lifelong partnership, active involvement in > > the partnership, and the potential to lose everything (1/2 minimum) if > > things don’t work out. > > rgds, > > lisa > August Pamplona > — > Women bring men they like tasks in much the same > way cats put dead mice on their owner’s pillows. > – Lola on a.s.s. > a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut > Proud member of the reality-based community. > The address in this message’s ‘From’ field, in accordance with > individual.net’s TOS, is real. However, almost all messages > reaching this address are deleted without human intervention. > In other words, if you e-mail me there, I will not receive your message. > To make sure that e-mail messages actually reach me, > make sure that my e-mail address is not hot.

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"hermit crab" <alpha_male…@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1123989275.038219.50780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if > you divorce, that bitch will get nothing?

Yes.  I got to know myself and my wife very well before we tied the knot.   Plus, we briefly discussed the issue (she brought it up), and decided that neither one of us was likely to accumulate enough wealth to make a prenup meaningful.

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August Pamplona wrote: > LisatheSequel wrote: > > hermit crab wrote: > >> Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if > >> you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? > > How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if it > > comes to divorce?

That’s nice in theory, but you can’t really tell that in advance, except for a fringe of obvious cases. > > Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is > > vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc?

Probably 50-80% of people are capable of the above behaviors.  It’s impossible to filter them out in advance (although you can avoid the obviously bad apples). It’s like saying you should never form a business partnership with someone you think you’re likely to have a falling out with.  Yet nearly every business partnership that grows to a significant size has, somewhere in its history, an episode of internal strife/disagreement that leads one of the original partners to leave (often after considerable political and/or legal wrangling). >          Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along > with many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is > "no" more often than we’d like to think.

Yeah.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -August Pamplona wrote: > LisatheSequel wrote: >> hermit crab wrote: >>> Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if >>> you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? >> How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if >> it comes to divorce? >> Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is >> vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? >         Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along with > many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is "no" > more often than we’d like to think. > August Pamplona

When emotions run high, people behave irrationally. That’s one reason I’m not in favor of community-property laws. — -=Lola Each of you has so much magnetic personality that iron-rich meteorites from distant galaxies are being pulled toward the earth, ensuring the total annihilation of future generations who, I think you’ll agree, have it coming. (Scott Adams)

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hermit crab wrote: > Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if > you divorce, that bitch will get nothing?

Probably, yeah.  My career is pretty much all I have, and I’ve put a lot of time into building it up.  There’s no point in throwing away the fruits of my labor. On reflection, though, if I was going to marry, my career would not be "all that I had" at that point.  Perhaps I’d be in a more generous, less paranoid mood at that point.

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> But, it’s also a necessary thing. Because women are fickle and greedy. > They just wake up one day, in a perfectly fine, happy marriage, and > decide they have had enough and want a second bite at the apple with > someone else. There’s absolutely no keeping them happy to prevent that > from happening.

Women are like that unfortunately. One day a female friend of mine decided to hate me. There was no particular dispute at all, and the day before it happened there was no clue that she might "dump" me. Even in the genius of hindsight her decision was stupid and reasonless. And true to female form she cut off all communication, so much for women being better communicators. I can’t trust any women now. Even if I meet the perfect woman, a switch could flick in her head and she will suddenly hate me for no reason. > So, in short, don’t get married. Don’t have kids. Don’t date women. > Most of us here don’t have these options anyway.

I think the best advice broader: don’t "invest" anything in the woman. Have a relationship if possible, but set the relationship up so that when she leaves you there won’t be too much damage. That means no joint financial dealings, no marriage and certainly no children (who would want the little fuckers anyway… children are of no use for men, just a status symbol for women).

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Gray Loser wrote: >>>How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if it >>>comes to divorce? > That’s nice in theory, but you can’t really tell that in advance, > except for a fringe of obvious cases.

Not true.  See below. >>>Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is >>>vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? > Probably 50-80% of people are capable of the above behaviors.  It’s > impossible to filter them out in advance (although you can avoid the > obviously bad apples). > It’s like saying you should never form a business partnership with > someone you think you’re likely to have a falling out with.  Yet nearly > every business partnership that grows to a significant size has, > somewhere in its history, an episode of internal strife/disagreement > that leads one of the original partners to leave (often after > considerable political and/or legal wrangling).

What I think would be ideal:  Knowing your potential mate long enough, observing their dealings with other people long enough… knowing their track record, iow, so you can reasonably predict if they’re going to stab you in the back when and if the time comes. I.e. How they treat other people is probably how they’re going to treat you.  The old saying about men comes to me:  the way a man treats his mother is how he’ll treat his wife. And note, I meant trying to find these things out *before* you get into a romantic relationship with someone and your vision is clouded.  An observation period, if you will.  Preferably a long one.  A years-long friendship.  And I know there are people who will say that’s unreasonable, it takes too long.  Well so do the consequences of a bad marriage or divorce, I say. If you’ve known a woman, been her friend, talked to her, know her mind, know how she reacts in such-n-such a situation, then you can better predict how she’s going to react when things that are important to you are on the hotplate, no? People get married way too quickly these days and for all the wrong reasons. First and foremost being: sex.  Feels like to me these days two people meet, look at each other, think:  you’re pretty!  Sleep together, think:  you make me feel good!  This is a great reason to be together forever!  Famous last words of the dismally immature and inexperienced.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -lisa wrote: > August Pamplona wrote: >>lisa wrote: >>>LisatheSequel wrote: >>>>August Pamplona wrote: >>>>>LisatheSequel wrote: >>>>>>hermit crab wrote: >>>>>>>Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if >>>>>>>you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? >>>>>>How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if >>>>>>it comes to divorce? >>>>>>Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is >>>>>>vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? >>>>>       Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along with >>>>>many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is "no" >>>>>more often than we’d like to think. >>>>I can only say to any person who’s thinking of marriage, pause for a >>>>moment, look at your SO and ask yourself, "do I love this person enough >>>>that if they cheated on me, divorced me, took my children away until I >>>>see them only on the weekends, don’t get married and I have to part with >>>>up to 2/3 of my income to support them until the day that they do… am >>>>I willing to accept those consequences as a worst case scenario?  Do I >>>>still want to marry them as much?" >>>>And if the answer is "no", don’t get married. >>>Exactly.  Not if you want to make it forever. >>>What’s simultaneously wonderful and horrible about youth and >>>relationships is that your sexuality kicks in about 15 years before >>>your brain function does.  I honestly think this is a survival of the >>>species type of function for us though.  We have to be horny enough and >>>stupid enough to ACTUALLY GET TOGETHER TO REPRODUCE.  Once the brain >>>starts kicking in, it takes over and makes things significantly more >>>difficult.  It’s like the rest of life is spent cleaning up the messes >>>created in youth. >>>[This isn't applicable for marriage and pre-nuptials, but for those who >>>skipped the horny & stupid phase, my best advice to you is to disengage >>>your brain for awhile and go out there and pick up some horny and >>>stupid ass -- JUST WEAR A CONDOM!] >>         I don’t know if I could actually handle stupid. I certainly >>know that I would prefer otherwise. Would merely acting stupid do? > If your brain was disengaged, you wouldn’t know if she were actually > stupid or just acting stupid — and you wouldn’t care.

         Hmm, I hadn’t thought of that*. Good answer! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> rgds, > lisa >>>>Geez.  There should be a class.  There’s a class for everything else. >>>You said it.  The classes should last at least a year, attendance must >>>be at least 85%, and it should cost a lot of money.  Think about it… >>>you’re being prepared for a lifelong partnership, active involvement in >>>the partnership, and the potential to lose everything (1/2 minimum) if >>>things don’t work out. >>>rgds, >>>lisa

August Pamplona * Does that mean that my brain has already been properly disengageed? If so, what’s my next step? — Women bring men they like tasks in much the same way cats put dead mice on their owner’s pillows. – Lola on a.s.s. a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut Proud member of the reality-based community. The address in this message’s ‘From’ field, in accordance with individual.net’s TOS, is real. However, almost all messages reaching this address are deleted without human intervention. In other words, if you e-mail me there, I will not receive your message. To make sure that e-mail messages actually reach me, make sure that my e-mail address is not hot.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -lisa wrote: > LisatheSequel wrote: >>August Pamplona wrote: >>>LisatheSequel wrote: >>>>hermit crab wrote: >>>>>Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if >>>>>you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? >>>>How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if >>>>it comes to divorce? >>>>Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is >>>>vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? >>>        Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along with >>>many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is "no" >>>more often than we’d like to think. >>I can only say to any person who’s thinking of marriage, pause for a >>moment, look at your SO and ask yourself, "do I love this person enough >>that if they cheated on me, divorced me, took my children away until I >>see them only on the weekends, don’t get married and I have to part with >>up to 2/3 of my income to support them until the day that they do… am >>I willing to accept those consequences as a worst case scenario?  Do I >>still want to marry them as much?" >>And if the answer is "no", don’t get married. > Exactly.  Not if you want to make it forever. > What’s simultaneously wonderful and horrible about youth and > relationships is that your sexuality kicks in about 15 years before > your brain function does.  I honestly think this is a survival of the > species type of function for us though.  We have to be horny enough and > stupid enough to ACTUALLY GET TOGETHER TO REPRODUCE.  Once the brain > starts kicking in, it takes over and makes things significantly more > difficult.  It’s like the rest of life is spent cleaning up the messes > created in youth. > [This isn't applicable for marriage and pre-nuptials, but for those who > skipped the horny & stupid phase, my best advice to you is to disengage > your brain for awhile and go out there and pick up some horny and > stupid ass -- JUST WEAR A CONDOM!]

         I don’t know if I could actually handle stupid. I certainly know that I would prefer otherwise. Would merely acting stupid do? >>Geez.  There should be a class.  There’s a class for everything else. > You said it.  The classes should last at least a year, attendance must > be at least 85%, and it should cost a lot of money.  Think about it… > you’re being prepared for a lifelong partnership, active involvement in > the partnership, and the potential to lose everything (1/2 minimum) if > things don’t work out.   > rgds, > lisa

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -August Pamplona wrote: > lisa wrote: > > LisatheSequel wrote: > >>August Pamplona wrote: > >>>LisatheSequel wrote: > >>>>hermit crab wrote: > >>>>>Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if > >>>>>you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? > >>>>How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if > >>>>it comes to divorce? > >>>>Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is > >>>>vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? > >>>        Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along with > >>>many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is "no" > >>>more often than we’d like to think. > >>I can only say to any person who’s thinking of marriage, pause for a > >>moment, look at your SO and ask yourself, "do I love this person enough > >>that if they cheated on me, divorced me, took my children away until I > >>see them only on the weekends, don’t get married and I have to part with > >>up to 2/3 of my income to support them until the day that they do… am > >>I willing to accept those consequences as a worst case scenario?  Do I > >>still want to marry them as much?" > >>And if the answer is "no", don’t get married. > > Exactly.  Not if you want to make it forever. > > What’s simultaneously wonderful and horrible about youth and > > relationships is that your sexuality kicks in about 15 years before > > your brain function does.  I honestly think this is a survival of the > > species type of function for us though.  We have to be horny enough and > > stupid enough to ACTUALLY GET TOGETHER TO REPRODUCE.  Once the brain > > starts kicking in, it takes over and makes things significantly more > > difficult.  It’s like the rest of life is spent cleaning up the messes > > created in youth. > > [This isn't applicable for marriage and pre-nuptials, but for those who > > skipped the horny & stupid phase, my best advice to you is to disengage > > your brain for awhile and go out there and pick up some horny and > > stupid ass -- JUST WEAR A CONDOM!] >          I don’t know if I could actually handle stupid. I certainly > know that I would prefer otherwise. Would merely acting stupid do?

You or her? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >>Geez.  There should be a class.  There’s a class for everything else. > > You said it.  The classes should last at least a year, attendance must > > be at least 85%, and it should cost a lot of money.  Think about it… > > you’re being prepared for a lifelong partnership, active involvement in > > the partnership, and the potential to lose everything (1/2 minimum) if > > things don’t work out. > > rgds, > > lisa > August Pamplona > — > Women bring men they like tasks in much the same > way cats put dead mice on their owner’s pillows. > – Lola on a.s.s. > a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut > Proud member of the reality-based community. > The address in this message’s ‘From’ field, in accordance with > individual.net’s TOS, is real. However, almost all messages > reaching this address are deleted without human intervention. > In other words, if you e-mail me there, I will not receive your message. > To make sure that e-mail messages actually reach me, > make sure that my e-mail address is not hot.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -lisa wrote: > August Pamplona wrote: >>lisa wrote: >>>LisatheSequel wrote: >>>>August Pamplona wrote: >>>>>LisatheSequel wrote: >>>>>>hermit crab wrote: >>>>>>>Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if >>>>>>>you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? >>>>>>How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if >>>>>>it comes to divorce? >>>>>>Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is >>>>>>vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? >>>>>       Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along with >>>>>many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is "no" >>>>>more often than we’d like to think. >>>>I can only say to any person who’s thinking of marriage, pause for a >>>>moment, look at your SO and ask yourself, "do I love this person enough >>>>that if they cheated on me, divorced me, took my children away until I >>>>see them only on the weekends, don’t get married and I have to part with >>>>up to 2/3 of my income to support them until the day that they do… am >>>>I willing to accept those consequences as a worst case scenario?  Do I >>>>still want to marry them as much?" >>>>And if the answer is "no", don’t get married. >>>Exactly.  Not if you want to make it forever. >>>What’s simultaneously wonderful and horrible about youth and >>>relationships is that your sexuality kicks in about 15 years before >>>your brain function does.  I honestly think this is a survival of the >>>species type of function for us though.  We have to be horny enough and >>>stupid enough to ACTUALLY GET TOGETHER TO REPRODUCE.  Once the brain >>>starts kicking in, it takes over and makes things significantly more >>>difficult.  It’s like the rest of life is spent cleaning up the messes >>>created in youth. >>>[This isn't applicable for marriage and pre-nuptials, but for those who >>>skipped the horny & stupid phase, my best advice to you is to disengage >>>your brain for awhile and go out there and pick up some horny and >>>stupid ass -- JUST WEAR A CONDOM!] >>         I don’t know if I could actually handle stupid. I certainly >>know that I would prefer otherwise. Would merely acting stupid do? > You or her?

         Her as our directive that the brain be disengaged already assumes that I’d be acting stupid. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>Geez.  There should be a class.  There’s a class for everything else. >>>You said it.  The classes should last at least a year, attendance must >>>be at least 85%, and it should cost a lot of money.  Think about it… >>>you’re being prepared for a lifelong partnership, active involvement in >>>the partnership, and the potential to lose everything (1/2 minimum) if >>>things don’t work out. >>>rgds, >>>lisa >>August Pamplona

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -LisatheSequel wrote: > August Pamplona wrote: >> LisatheSequel wrote: >>> hermit crab wrote: >>>> Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if >>>> you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? >>> How about not marrying someone you don’t trust to be fair with you if >>> it comes to divorce? >>> Wouldn’t it be obvious during the courtship your potential partner is >>> vindictive, immature, vengeful, unfaithful, etc? >>         Judging by the sorts of conflicts that sometimes come along >> with many divorces I would have to say the answer to that question is >> "no" more often than we’d like to think. > I can only say to any person who’s thinking of marriage, pause for a > moment, look at your SO and ask yourself, "do I love this person enough > that if they cheated on me, divorced me, took my children away until I > see them only on the weekends, don’t get married and I have to part with > up to 2/3 of my income to support them until the day that they do… am > I willing to accept those consequences as a worst case scenario?  Do I > still want to marry them as much?" > And if the answer is "no", don’t get married. > Geez.  There should be a class.  There’s a class for everything else.

         All I can say is that if I ever got into anything ressembling a "relationship", I would hope that I’d be able to remain good friends when it ended. I think that seems right to me and I think that I could do that. August Pamplona — Women bring men they like tasks in much the same way cats put dead mice on their owner’s pillows. – Lola on a.s.s. a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut Proud member of the reality-based community. The address in this message’s ‘From’ field, in accordance with individual.net’s TOS, is real. However, almost all messages reaching this address are deleted without human intervention. In other words, if you e-mail me there, I will not receive your message. To make sure that e-mail messages actually reach me, make sure that my e-mail address is not hot.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Darkfalz wrote: > hermit crab wrote: >>Would you ever marry without a "Prenuptial Agreement" stating that if >>you divorce, that bitch will get nothing? > This is the problem. If you have to get a prenup, there’s no point in > getting married. Because it’s pretty much a promise that you’re going > to get divorced and when you do, you don’t want her profiting from it. > But, it’s also a necessary thing. Because women are fickle and greedy. > They just wake up one day, in a perfectly fine, happy marriage, and > decide they have had enough and want a second bite at the apple with > someone else. There’s absolutely no keeping them happy to prevent that > from happening. It’s just dumb luck. And just because she hasn’t > crushed your world enough, she’ll want to take you to the cleaners too. > Your only "hope", if you can call it that, is for her to get morbidly > obese and figure she’ll never be able to get anyone else. > Truth is, women never do anything for the man they already have. If > your overweight wife starts working out, it’s not for you. It’s for > your REPLACEMENT. Women have the belief that they are giving their 50% > share in a marriage just by being there (while you are grapsing at > straws for ways to keep her happy). Oprah and feminism are largely > responsible for this phenomenon.

         Yeah it’s all Oprah’s fault. All hail the mighty Oprah! > So, in short, don’t get married. Don’t have kids. Don’t date women. > Most of us here don’t have these options anyway. > If you do get married, get a prenup, but that’s an admission that the > marriage is going to fail and that the woman you’re with is a gold > digging whore. So you might not want to marry her in the first place.

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