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I just saw a news broadcast that had interviews with some of our local students. The students are more in favor of armed guards and metal detectors than the parents and teachers are. What do you make of that? — Sourdough sez: How many flies does it take to screw in a light bulb? Two!….but I don’t know how they would get in there… Trent <trent_m…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:372979f3.10632919@nntp.ix.netcom.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If your kids’ high school offered a MANDATORY course in how to survive > a terrorism attack at their high school, similar to Colorado, would > you let them attend?  Why or why not? > If you have kids, have you contacted your kids’ school or daycare > center to see what they’re doing to prevent such an occurrence at your > facility? > Trent > —  Ever seen a drive-by stabbing?  Guns…they’re not just for >       breakfast anymore.

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My two oldest are in 3rd and kindergarten. At the grade school they attend its grades k-6, and their is only 140 kids, 1 class for every grade, we are out in the country, mostly farmers, ranchers. Both of my kids have discussed this withen their classes, and the school practices lockdown. You can never be too safe. momalot – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ISIS wrote: > I would certainly let my boy join the class!  Also, no.  I have not checked > into the school.  I didn’t think it was necessary because of it being an > intermediate school.  Maybe I better do that.  Thanks for bringing it to my > attention. >                                             ISIS > Trent <trent_m…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:372979f3.10632919@nntp.ix.netcom.com… > > If your kids’ high school offered a MANDATORY course in how to survive > > a terrorism attack at their high school, similar to Colorado, would > > you let them attend?  Why or why not? > > If you have kids, have you contacted your kids’ school or daycare > > center to see what they’re doing to prevent such an occurrence at your > > facility? > > Trent > > —  Ever seen a drive-by stabbing?  Guns…they’re not just for > >       breakfast anymore.

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I would certainly let my boy join the class!  Also, no.  I have not checked into the school.  I didn’t think it was necessary because of it being an intermediate school.  Maybe I better do that.  Thanks for bringing it to my attention.                                             ISIS Trent <trent_m…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:372979f3.10632919@nntp.ix.netcom.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If your kids’ high school offered a MANDATORY course in how to survive > a terrorism attack at their high school, similar to Colorado, would > you let them attend?  Why or why not? > If you have kids, have you contacted your kids’ school or daycare > center to see what they’re doing to prevent such an occurrence at your > facility? > Trent > —  Ever seen a drive-by stabbing?  Guns…they’re not just for >       breakfast anymore.

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Any such plan would depend on the specific environment, since escape routes and building layouts are specific.  I think that any sensible plan would be good. If for nothing else, there is less fear when you feel as if you have a job to do in a crisis.  It helps everyone to think more clearly, and if you can keep the kids quiet and calm, there is a greater chance of hiding.  The teachers would then have less chaos to deal with, and could concentrate on what action to take rather than chase frantic kids. Like tornado drills–it’s a game of chance whether or not a group of children will survive, but what you teach them gives them a better chance.  I think that is all you can do. As for who would teach it, I would suggest SWAT team members or survival instructors (who generally know that common sense is the greatest tool for survival).  The lessons for surviving such a crisis could actually be presented in a broad enough manner to be applicable elsewhere (to a lesser degree, perhaps). -Buster

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Trent, In this household, we’ve discussed the shooting in Colorado, gangs, and violence almost non-stop.  My kids have lots of questions and opinions, and I’ve let them "pour it out" as much as they want. Today my 14-year old son told me that in his Middle school they had an assembly to explain why the side doors shouldn’t be opened to an adult who is knocking – that all visitors must go to the front desk at the main entrance.  They discussed safe ways for students to talk to teachers or administrators if they know of a friend who is acting suspiciously, or if they fear another student for any reason.  They talked about "danger signals" and warning signs that may indicate a child is seriously disturbed. My 16-year old daughter came home to tell me that in her high school, all trenchcoats and other "uniform"-type apparell has been forbidden (a scary story following), and that it’s mandatory now that all teachers lock the classrooms while in session.  The high school is working on a way to control access to the bathrooms without denying access to those who need it. I’m sooooo glad that the schools are using this opportunity to educate the children to the dangers of gangs, treating others as outcasts, and violence in general.  I’m also glad that the schools are taking what measures they can to make the kids feel more secure on school grounds, although I feel very sad that it’s come to locking classrooms.   My 16-year old daughter told me a couple days ago that there’s a group of kids in her school who ALWAYS wear black trench coats, whether it’s 90 degrees outside or 30.   They dress in all black, always, and are never without the rest of their group.  They don’t talk or intermingle with anyone not wearing the "uniform" of their group.  One day my daughter got excused from class to go to the restroom, and when she walked into the ladies room, the trenchcoat gang – every one of them – were in the ladies bathroom.  They had apparently accompanied one of the girls in their group.  They were sitting on the sinks and on the floor, completely unconcerned that anyone find a group of boys in the ladies bathroom.  They were smoking and just "hanging out".  My daughter did an immediate about-face and went to find another bathroom.   She didn’t report it to her teacher or any other aministrator because many of them got a clear look at her face and she was scared.  She’s half Puerto Rican and looks 100% "latina" even though I’m blonde/blue eyed. I wish she had told me several months ago when it happened.  I would have reported it in a way that would ensure her safety.  Scary, what our kids are up against in the public schools.  I can’t afford to send all 3 of my children to private schools, but am seriously thinking about how I could swing it.  In the meantime, if the schools were to give mandatory classes on how to survive a terrorist-type attack on their school, I’d applaud it.   Like AIDS education, I don’t see any harm in educating the kids on the prevention, survival of, and dangers of this kind of violence. Cherie Trent writes: >If your kids’ high school offered a MANDATORY course in how to survive >a terrorism attack at their high school, similar to Colorado, would >you let them attend?  Why or why not? >If you have kids, have you contacted your kids’ school or daycare >center to see what they’re doing to prevent such an occurrence at your >facility? >Trent >–  Ever seen a drive-by stabbing?  Guns…they’re not just for >      breakfast anymore.

. Ya just gotta laugh!

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On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:53:09 GMT, trent_m…@hotmail.com (Trent) wrote: >If your kids’ high school offered a MANDATORY course in how to survive >a terrorism attack at their high school, similar to Colorado, would >you let them attend?  Why or why not? >If you have kids, have you contacted your kids’ school or daycare >center to see what they’re doing to prevent such an occurrence at your >facility? >Trent >–  Ever seen a drive-by stabbing?  Guns…they’re not just for >      breakfast anymore.

I would let them attend. I dont think there is such a thing and TOO much info in this arena. Every little bit helps. We are suppose to have a meeting next month at the highschool My kids are 9 and 5 and not there yet but we are gonna go to the meeting and try to get some of our questions asked. Tazz Reply to Bry…@ix.netcom.com ICQ# 12098561

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As with any course, I would want to review the curriculum and the qualifications of the instructors. Given the nature of terrorism, I wonder how you could teach survival methods. How would you design such a course? — Sourdough sez: How many flies does it take to screw in a light bulb? Two. But how would they get in there? Trent <trent_m…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:372979f3.10632919@nntp.ix.netcom.com… | If your kids’ high school offered a MANDATORY course in how to survive | a terrorism attack at their high school, similar to Colorado, would | you let them attend?  Why or why not? | | If you have kids, have you contacted your kids’ school or daycare | center to see what they’re doing to prevent such an occurrence at your | facility? | | | Trent | | —  Ever seen a drive-by stabbing?  Guns…they’re not just for |       breakfast anymore. |

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> Trent stated… > If your kids’ high school offered a MANDATORY course in how to survive > a terrorism attack at their high school, similar to Colorado, would > you let them attend?  Why or why not?

Absolutely.  In today’s world, it’s best to be prepared for the worst, and if being educated about crisis management is the way to do it, I definately advocate it.  Much more useful in real life than a mandatory PE class IMO. > If you have kids, have you contacted your kids’ school or daycare > center to see what they’re doing to prevent such an occurrence at your > facility?

My stepson is taken care of by family, he’s only 3, so it’s really not an issue yet. Tamara

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