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}3 legs give me 6 figure income What has your PV been the past 6 months ? What is you pin level. How long have you been in?

TELL ME YOUR INCOME. YOUR ADDRESS . HOW MANY KIDS YOU HAVE AND THE COLOR OF YOUR HAIR FIRST! } Josh .. how many times did you show the plan ? Maybe you failed } } Mike do you mean cult or Occult? or do you know the difference

rong and not true. Why are you going against Amway corp ? My teacher told me that in high school. along time ago I still dont know about amways symbol please tell me what it means }hey? }I do have friends that are not in business they are still friends… }What are you talking about. Maybe you donot have friends }For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise". }Read who stole american dream. Ahhh. You mean one of the books on business ethics written by Devos who himself has a criminal past in business ?

no! the man who wrote it does not belong to amway do you want me to juge you on your past? } The fastest growing amway group is infact north america…lethbridge } alberta canada What documentation do you have for this? I’m pretty sure there is documentation from Devos himself that North America has slowed down alot.

Please provde me your doccumentation . A number of diamonds justb broke their last month. }Dave I HAVE the facts…I just don’t look at them through rose Tell us Dave. Do you play by the rules ? Do you require your sponsering downline to provide proof every month of 10 retail customers before paying their bonus check and deny their bonus check in any month when proof is not provided ? Do you teach this downline? Does your "edifiable" upline teach this ?

Tell me do you speed when you drive? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any unsolicited email advertisements will be assessed a $500 fee for each occurrence. Failure to pay within 10 days may result in collection agency referral and legal action. You have been warned.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike The only people that dont make money sdont work it right. Josh .. how many times did you show the plan ? Maybe you failed Mike do you mean cult or Occult? or do you know the difference The fastest growing amway group is infact north america…lethbridge alberta canada Aas for prices..in canada we beet walmart 60% of the time 40% within 5 dollars . All that and a tax break of 40% You sound like a poor poor fool with plenty of FREE advice GET all the FACTS you know it alls know you have to go to work tommorrow dave …31 and Add illiterate to that tagline… — Lord 13 http://www.wwnet.com/~lord13 UFOlogy/Anti-Amway/Classic Video Game Pages

Lord . I may be illiteratee But im not BROKE LIKE YOU LORD are you triing to be god?

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My intention is to correct your "vision" af amway . The things you tell me are lies. I KNOW because I am in amway. Mike You are correct, Dave, he did only build a primarily one-legged organization. No argument there! Perhaps it is easier in Canada to build more…you may or may not have all the negatives associated with the Amway name like we do here.

Funny bill gates , don trump and newt donot think it is negative. p a religion! The following is from the Random House Dictionary: Cult: intense, often faddish, devotion to a person, ideal, or thing.

What is your point of calling this a cult. seems that if teachers, polititicians do stupid things at their seminars.If you go by you definition than everybody is in a cult of somesort.What about those peptalks at work!! There you have it. If Dexter says it, the devotees do it! I’ve been to meetings where EVERYONE had their Franklin Planners (purchased through Amway at a ridiculous price…for the points…of course), everyone had their little canister of Glister in their pockets or purses. When there was a hush in the room, suddenly…SQUIRT, SQUIRT…everyone shot that overpriced breath freshener into their mouths.

Whats your point? We sell franklin planners ( very affordable after tax time) do you think we buy planners of of you. Virtually every Dexter-ite has their picture of their "dream" on the refrigerator…a brand new Motor Coach (that still is the first dream preached by Dex, isn’t it?).

no actually mine was a bmw . Amotor coach is to hard for me to park! I seen plumbers , teachers have conventions what kind of cult are they? Again, there are plumbers, teachers, etc in other cults as well!

so why call us a cult? I do have friends that are not in business they are still friends… What are you talking about. Maybe you donot have friends Then you are unusual. I congratulate you on many friendships. Many Amway people are much more shallow…developing friendships for the sole purpose of recruiting them later!

How do you know that? I know more amway people than you and I donot see this. By the way, I have HUNDREDS of friends…through my church, through my schooling, through my neighborhood, etc. I count among my friends Senators, State Representatives, US Congressmen, ministers, plumbers, teachers…etc.

How many will attend your funeral. Tell me how many are REALLY your friends For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise". Read who stole american dream. The fastest growing amway group is infact north america…lethbridge alberta canada Yeah, right! That’s why there’s a waiting list for major medical procedures…like open heart surgery. That’s why there are only a few MRI machines in each province.

What is the waiting list for your poor. I can get anything with my money . But at least the poor are well taken care of for free! By the way, you say your healthcare is free. BOY, HAVE YOU BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOODS BY YOUR GOVERNMENT! I do not view the CONFISCATORY tax rate charged by the Canadian government FREE! Give me a break!

Average income is also more. Chek out your deficit you are next!!!! The best in the world!! I donot pay for my illness what about you. How much $$$ would a heart attack cost you. You show your Intellegence I am showing mine. You are showing yours. Do you happen to have a spell-checker? Or is the Canadian education system as efficient as your healthcare system?

so you can spell….Ican make money.. do you want to try to match my personal stengths. I admit I connot spell In my AMERICAN experience with Amway, their wholesale prices can easily be beat by the local department stores. Check again… you are in business to sell soap and toilet paper..just like safeway..compare again. Dont forget to add pv/bv and a 40% TAX BREAK AT YEAR END My friend, you have been duped! The wholesale prices in the Amway catalog, especially for non-Amway products, are RIDICULOUS! The pv/bv is so low they may as well NOT give it to you, and you only get paid on that if you have developed an organization! What about the poor sucker who is just getting started in his business and is pressured into buying from his "own store". He will never see one red cent from that pv/bv, will he?

Fact is that soap , paper products cerials and petfoods are the #1 sellers in the world.Dont believe me LOOK at a grocery store. I bet there is one isle devoted to each of these products. Only 3 feet is given for beans. Where do you think the money is? Please tell me pv and bv and cost for these products.. you might find you are wrong. I would be happy to supply you a cost sheet. I will buy a t.v. every five years( and write it off) I wipe my ass everyday.An average family of 4 will SAVE 1500 dollarrs on soap alone! You get paid for what you do. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You sound like a poor poor fool with plenty of FREE advice GET all the FACTS Dave I HAVE the facts…I just don’t look at them through rose colored glasses! Really…. you fooled me .I am in amway for years and your AMWAY is different than mine..WHY? you know it alls know you have to go to work tommorrow dave …31 and By the way, Dave, you still haven’t answered my question as to why you don’t use your REAL e-mail address. What are you afraid of? it is in my news browser The problems at your end. Not so. By the way, Dave, how do you answer all the ethical questions? Why do Amway reps feel the need to lie about who they are? Why, when asked if they are with Amway, they give a BS answer like "Well, Amway is just one of the companies we represent. We have partnerships with Fortune 500 companies and are able to distribute those products as well"?

Amway is simply a warehouse. Our network is so big that if amway folded some other warehose would jump at the chance to jump in. Our network does over 35% of sales . Come on !! The distributers call the shots.. WE MAKE THE MONEY. I donot work for amway and will deal with any warehouse. Trouble is amway pays the best! You know this is a lie! Amway has NO PARTNERSHIP with Fortune 500 companies! Amway is simply acting as the middleman.

Really . I recieve several residual checks from unitell Why not just say "Yes, I am an independent distributor for Amway. We have blah, blah, blah!"?

It is not amways business It is mine. DOES A CAR DEALER WORK FOR FORD OR HIMSELF? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Why the deception Dave (and don’t give me any crap about only a few do that…everyone knows THAT’S a lie!)? Mike

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Although this is the EXCEL newsgroup and I feel that some UNETHICAL ways have been used to insert amway garbage into it…I will respond to this. GO GET’EM TIGER!…but please do it via E-mail. *****Independent Rep; EXCEL TELECOMMUNICATIONS***** My Opinions Do Not Necessarily Reflect Those Of Excel Joe Britt RD/RTD (260 Million People…Do I look Worried?)

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}For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise". }Read who stole american dream. That’s funny coming from a CANADIAN Any unsolicited email advertisements will be assessed a $500 fee for each occurrence. Failure to pay within 10 days may result in collection agency referral and legal action. You have been warned.

NORTH AMERICA Canada was their last time i looked at map

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Again, Dave, you are mistaken! My best friend, Jim, was a Silver Direct with Amway. He worked it right. Did the meetings, showed the plan, etc. He even RETAILED! Wow, now there’s something unusual! What was his biggest check? Less than $100! That’s right. He called, he ordered, he met, he bagged, he tagged, he drove, he put up with bounced checks…. Please 1) How many people were in his group ? 2) How many people frontline was he paying bonuses to ? Saying someone is a Silver producer does not mean much. You can be a Silver with a Diamond in your downline and still make no money. Of course, one needs to understand how the plan works to understand how this is possible 3) How many plans a month did he show ? 4) How many months did he show at least 20 plans ?

I donot understand Tagged and bagged I donot do this maybe that is why he failed I meant JUST WHAT I SAID…..CULT! There is a definite cult-like atmosphere in Amway. Things such as "if someone doesn’t see the opportunity, they are not worth associating with" (a philosophy taught by the Yager crowd). Ever been to a convention (group brainwashing session)? Talk about cult-like tactics!

Look at some of your political party rallys . Talk about cultlike!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Same old lines. Have you been to a meeting ? Can you please reference this line to a source or is this something that you heard For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise". Right, have to read the Popcorn Report, or a recent article in the Medical Post about physicians getting involved in the business, or the integration of technology and the business….. when was that book written ? This may or may not be true. I am unfamiliar with Canadian pricing. If it’s anything like Canadian health care…… In my AMERICAN experience with Amway, their wholesale prices can easily be beat by the local department stores. Uh, the Amway business is not just about saving money, it is about making money. Some things are more expensive, some are the same, and some are cheaper. If you are just interested in saving money, do not get involved with Amway. It is about making money. Dave I HAVE the facts…I just don’t look at them through rose colored glasses! The facts are there, the business works or it probably would not be in 70+ countries, around for 35 years, 6.8 billion dollars, 2.5 million distributers etc… Hey, all the business is a another vehicle to provide a secondary source of income.If it is not for you, great. If it is great, get going. Pete

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Simple…part of the ancient dinasaur-like plan of Amway is delivering goods to your clients. Most of us modern MLMers allow customers to buy direct. Tagged and bagged refers to the laborious job of sorting product, getting it ready for delivery, arranging for payment, etc. I meant JUST WHAT I SAID…..CULT! There is a definite cult-like atmosphere in Amway. Things such as "if someone doesn’t see the opportunity, they are not worth associating with" (a philosophy taught by the Yager crowd). Ever been to a convention (group brainwashing session)? Talk about cult-like tactics! Look at some of your political party rallys . Talk about cultlike!!

I don’t disagree. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Same old lines. Have you been to a meeting ? Can you please reference this line to a source or is this something that you heard For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise". Right, have to read the Popcorn Report, or a recent article in the Medical Post about physicians getting involved in the business, or the integration of technology and the business….. when was that book written ? This may or may not be true. I am unfamiliar with Canadian pricing. If it’s anything like Canadian health care…… In my AMERICAN experience with Amway, their wholesale prices can easily be beat by the local department stores. Uh, the Amway business is not just about saving money, it is about making money. Some things are more expensive, some are the same, and some are cheaper. If you are just interested in saving money, do not get involved with Amway. It is about making money. Dave I HAVE the facts…I just don’t look at them through rose colored glasses! The facts are there, the business works or it probably would not be in 70+ countries, around for 35 years, 6.8 billion dollars, 2.5 million distributers etc… Hey, all the business is a another vehicle to provide a secondary source of income.If it is not for you, great. If it is great, get going. Pete

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Ahhh. You mean one of the books on business ethics written by Devos who himself has a criminal past in business ?

What "ciminal past" would that be? Tell us Dave. Do you play by the rules ? Do you require your sponsering downline to provide proof every month of 10 retail customers before paying their bonus check and deny their bonus check in any month when proof is not provided ? Do you teach this downline? Does your "edifiable" upline teach this ?

What difference does this make? Whether or not Dave or his specific upline play by the rules has nothing to do with Amway or it’s legitimacy. Frankly, Amway keeps this rule alive only because of government requirements. Gandalf

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Again, Dave, you are mistaken! My best friend, Jim, was a Silver Direct with Amway. He worked it right. Did the meetings, showed the plan, etc. He even RETAILED! Wow, now there’s something unusual! What was his biggest check? Less than $100! That’s right. He called, he ordered, he met, he bagged, he tagged, he drove, he put up with bounced checks….

Please 1) How many people were in his group ? 2) How many people frontline was he paying bonuses to ? Saying someone is a Silver producer does not mean much. You can be a Silver with a Diamond in your downline and still make no money. Of course, one needs to understand how the plan works to understand how this is possible 3) How many plans a month did he show ? 4) How many months did he show at least 20 plans ? I meant JUST WHAT I SAID…..CULT! There is a definite cult-like atmosphere in Amway. Things such as "if someone doesn’t see the opportunity, they are not worth associating with" (a philosophy taught by the Yager crowd). Ever been to a convention (group brainwashing session)? Talk about cult-like tactics!

Same old lines. Have you been to a meeting ? Can you please reference this line to a source or is this something that you heard For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise".

Right, have to read the Popcorn Report, or a recent article in the Medical Post about physicians getting involved in the business, or the integration of technology and the business….. when was that book written ? This may or may not be true. I am unfamiliar with Canadian pricing. If it’s anything like Canadian health care…… In my AMERICAN experience with Amway, their wholesale prices can easily be beat by the local department stores.

Uh, the Amway business is not just about saving money, it is about making money. Some things are more expensive, some are the same, and some are cheaper. If you are just interested in saving money, do not get involved with Amway. It is about making money. Dave I HAVE the facts…I just don’t look at them through rose colored glasses!

The facts are there, the business works or it probably would not be in 70+ countries, around for 35 years, 6.8 billion dollars, 2.5 million distributers etc… Hey, all the business is a another vehicle to provide a secondary source of income.If it is not for you, great. If it is great, get going. Pete

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike The only people that dont make money sdont work it right. Again, Dave, you are mistaken! My best friend, Jim, was a Silver Direct with Amway. He worked it right. Did the meetings, showed the plan, etc. He even RETAILED! Wow, now there’s something unusual! What was his biggest check? Less than $100! That’s right. He called, he ordered, he met, he bagged, he tagged, he drove, he put up with bounced checks….

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JUST JOIN AMWAY all i hear are claims claims claims all backed up by YOUR independant reasearch.

In case you two were wondering…this is the EXCEL newsgroup. *****Independent Rep; EXCEL TELECOMMUNICATIONS***** My Opinions Do Not Necessarily Reflect Those Of Excel Joe Britt RD/RTD (260 Million People…Do I look Worried?)

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Add illiterate to that tagline… — Lord 13 http://www.wwnet.com/~lord13 UFOlogy/Anti-Amway/Classic Video Game Pages

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JUST JOIN AMWAY all i hear are claims claims claims all backed up by YOUR independant reasearch. In case you two were wondering…this is the EXCEL newsgroup.

Could care less. we are talking about ( un) excel are we not? *****Independent Rep; EXCEL TELECOMMUNICATIONS***** My Opinions Do Not Necessarily Reflect Those Of Excel Joe Britt RD/RTD (260 Million People…Do I look Worried?)

yea but we are dealing with peoples lives here… you want money dont you? and you want security dont you? so do the best AMWAY By the way we are successful in every country!! BILLIONS SERVED!!

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}For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise". }Read who stole american dream.

That’s funny coming from a CANADIAN Any unsolicited email advertisements will be assessed a $500 fee for each occurrence. Failure to pay within 10 days may result in collection agency referral and legal action. You have been warned.

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}3 legs give me 6 figure income

What has your PV been the past 6 months ? What is you pin level. How long have you been in? } Josh .. how many times did you show the plan ? Maybe you failed } } Mike do you mean cult or Occult? or do you know the difference } }Yes, Dave, I do know the difference. I am, after all, a licensed }minister whose special area of study is both the OCCULT and CULTS. Amway }has long been accused of being involved in the OCCULT…a charge which I }do NOT BELIEVE. This has always been based on their symbol, etc. }WHAT symbol is that? What about procter and gamble?

P&G ? Heh. A high level ADA Council member and Amway are currently being sued by P&G for spreading that lie over Amvox (which you have apparently been told also). Amway Corp has specifically stated this is wrong and not true. Why are you going against Amway corp ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -}I meant JUST WHAT I SAID…..CULT! There is a definite cult-like }atmosphere in Amway. Things such as "if someone doesn’t see the }opportunity, they are not worth associating with" (a philosophy taught by }the Yager crowd). Ever been to a convention (group brainwashing }session)? Talk about cult-like tactics! }What religiom are we if we are a cult. SEEMS their are jews .cathlocs }, baptists hindus in amway.. WHAT STRANGE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS DO WE }HAVE? WHAT STANGE WORSHIP DO WE HAVE? }I seen plumbers , teachers have conventions what kind of cult are }they? }I do have friends that are not in business they are still friends… }What are you talking about. Maybe you donot have friends }For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise". }Read who stole american dream.

Ahhh. You mean one of the books on business ethics written by Devos who himself has a criminal past in business ? } The fastest growing amway group is infact north

america…lethbridge } alberta canada

What documentation do you have for this? I’m pretty sure there is documentation from Devos himself that North America has slowed down alot. }Dave I HAVE the facts…I just don’t look at them through rose colored }glasses! } Really…. you fooled me .I am in amway for years and your AMWAY is }different than mine..WHY?

Tell us Dave. Do you play by the rules ? Do you require your sponsering downline to provide proof every month of 10 retail customers before paying their bonus check and deny their bonus check in any month when proof is not provided ? Do you teach this downline? Does your "edifiable" upline teach this ? Any unsolicited email advertisements will be assessed a $500 fee for each occurrence. Failure to pay within 10 days may result in collection agency referral and legal action. You have been warned.

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just to start this off right, I have no intention of getting into a pissing match with Dave over our VERY different opinions of Amway. My intent is to answer his accusations and gently correct him when I feel he is wrong. I’ve never met Dave, and I’m sure he is a likeable guy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike The only people that dont make money sdont work it right. Again, Dave, you are mistaken! My best friend, Jim, was a Silver Direct with Amway. He worked it right. Did the meetings, showed the plan, etc. He even RETAILED! Wow, now there’s something unusual! What was his biggest check? Less than $100! That’s right. He called, he ordered, he met, he bagged, he tagged, he drove, he put up with bounced checks…. YEA but a one line direct did not build amway rite. tell him to build 3 legs next time!!! 3 legs give me 6 figure income

You are correct, Dave, he did only build a primarily one-legged organization. No argument there! Perhaps it is easier in Canada to build more…you may or may not have all the negatives associated with the Amway name like we do here. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Josh .. how many times did you show the plan ? Maybe you failed Mike do you mean cult or Occult? or do you know the difference Yes, Dave, I do know the difference. I am, after all, a licensed minister whose special area of study is both the OCCULT and CULTS. Amway has long been accused of being involved in the OCCULT…a charge which I do NOT BELIEVE. This has always been based on their symbol, etc. WHAT symbol is that? What about procter and gamble? I meant JUST WHAT I SAID…..CULT! There is a definite cult-like atmosphere in Amway. Things such as "if someone doesn’t see the opportunity, they are not worth associating with" (a philosophy taught by the Yager crowd). Ever been to a convention (group brainwashing session)? Talk about cult-like tactics! What religiom are we if we are a cult. SEEMS their are jews .cathlocs , baptists hindus in amway.. WHAT STRANGE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS DO WE HAVE? WHAT STANGE WORSHIP DO WE HAVE?

Yes, and there are Jews, Muslims, Catholics, etc, involved in the cult of New Age Philosophy, Moonies, etc. What’s your point? You do not have a deep undertsanding of the definition of "cult" if it HAS to be associated with a religion! The following is from the Random House Dictionary: Cult: intense, often faddish, devotion to a person, ideal, or thing. There you have it. If Dexter says it, the devotees do it! I’ve been to meetings where EVERYONE had their Franklin Planners (purchased through Amway at a ridiculous price…for the points…of course), everyone had their little canister of Glister in their pockets or purses. When there was a hush in the room, suddenly…SQUIRT, SQUIRT…everyone shot that overpriced breath freshener into their mouths. Virtually every Dexter-ite has their picture of their "dream" on the refrigerator…a brand new Motor Coach (that still is the first dream preached by Dex, isn’t it?). I seen plumbers , teachers have conventions what kind of cult are they?

Again, there are plumbers, teachers, etc in other cults as well! I do have friends that are not in business they are still friends… What are you talking about. Maybe you donot have friends

Then you are unusual. I congratulate you on many friendships. Many Amway people are much more shallow…developing friendships for the sole purpose of recruiting them later! By the way, I have HUNDREDS of friends…through my church, through my schooling, through my neighborhood, etc. I count among my friends Senators, State Representatives, US Congressmen, ministers, plumbers, teachers…etc. For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise". Read who stole american dream. The fastest growing amway group is infact north america…lethbridge alberta canada Aas for prices..in canada we beet walmart 60% of the time 40% within 5 dollars . All that and a tax break of 40% well if you dont know ..GET the facts before you flap off!! This may or may not be true. I am unfamiliar with Canadian pricing. If it’s anything like Canadian health care……

Yeah, right! That’s why there’s a waiting list for major medical procedures…like open heart surgery. That’s why there are only a few MRI machines in each province. By the way, you say your healthcare is free. BOY, HAVE YOU BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOODS BY YOUR GOVERNMENT! I do not view the CONFISCATORY tax rate charged by the Canadian government FREE! Give me a break! The best in the world!! I donot pay for my illness what about you. How much $$$ would a heart attack cost you. You show your Intellegence

I am showing mine. You are showing yours. Do you happen to have a spell-checker? Or is the Canadian education system as efficient as your healthcare system? In my AMERICAN experience with Amway, their wholesale prices can easily be beat by the local department stores. Check again… you are in business to sell soap and toilet paper..just like safeway..compare again. Dont forget to add pv/bv and a 40% TAX BREAK AT YEAR END

My friend, you have been duped! The wholesale prices in the Amway catalog, especially for non-Amway products, are RIDICULOUS! The pv/bv is so low they may as well NOT give it to you, and you only get paid on that if you have developed an organization! What about the poor sucker who is just getting started in his business and is pressured into buying from his "own store". He will never see one red cent from that pv/bv, will he? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You sound like a poor poor fool with plenty of FREE advice GET all the FACTS Dave I HAVE the facts…I just don’t look at them through rose colored glasses! Really…. you fooled me .I am in amway for years and your AMWAY is different than mine..WHY? you know it alls know you have to go to work tommorrow dave …31 and By the way, Dave, you still haven’t answered my question as to why you don’t use your REAL e-mail address. What are you afraid of? it is in my news browser The problems at your end.

Not so. By the way, Dave, how do you answer all the ethical questions? Why do Amway reps feel the need to lie about who they are? Why, when asked if they are with Amway, they give a BS answer like "Well, Amway is just one of the companies we represent. We have partnerships with Fortune 500 companies and are able to distribute those products as well"? You know this is a lie! Amway has NO PARTNERSHIP with Fortune 500 companies! Amway is simply acting as the middleman. Why not just say "Yes, I am an independent distributor for Amway. We have blah, blah, blah!"? Why the deception Dave (and don’t give me any crap about only a few do that…everyone knows THAT’S a lie!)? Mike

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Mike The only people that dont make money sdont work it right. Josh .. how many times did you show the plan ? Maybe you failed Mike do you mean cult or Occult? or do you know the difference The fastest growing amway group is infact north america…lethbridge alberta canada Aas for prices..in canada we beet walmart 60% of the time 40% within 5 dollars . All that and a tax break of 40% You sound like a poor poor fool with plenty of FREE advice GET all the FACTS you know it alls know you have to go to work tommorrow dave …31 and

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Mike The only people that dont make money sdont work it right. Again, Dave, you are mistaken! My best friend, Jim, was a Silver Direct with Amway. He worked it right. Did the meetings, showed the plan, etc. He even RETAILED! Wow, now there’s something unusual! What was his biggest check? Less than $100! That’s right. He called, he ordered, he met, he bagged, he tagged, he drove, he put up with bounced checks…. YEA but a one line direct did not build amway rite. tell him to build 3 legs next time!!!

3 legs give me 6 figure income Josh .. how many times did you show the plan ? Maybe you failed Mike do you mean cult or Occult? or do you know the difference Yes, Dave, I do know the difference. I am, after all, a licensed minister whose special area of study is both the OCCULT and CULTS. Amway has long been accused of being involved in the OCCULT…a charge which I do NOT BELIEVE. This has always been based on their symbol, etc.

WHAT symbol is that? What about procter and gamble? I meant JUST WHAT I SAID…..CULT! There is a definite cult-like atmosphere in Amway. Things such as "if someone doesn’t see the opportunity, they are not worth associating with" (a philosophy taught by the Yager crowd). Ever been to a convention (group brainwashing session)? Talk about cult-like tactics!

What religiom are we if we are a cult. SEEMS their are jews .cathlocs , baptists hindus in amway.. WHAT STRANGE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS DO WE HAVE? WHAT STANGE WORSHIP DO WE HAVE? I seen plumbers , teachers have conventions what kind of cult are they? I do have friends that are not in business they are still friends… What are you talking about. Maybe you donot have friends For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise".

Read who stole american dream. The fastest growing amway group is infact north america…lethbridge alberta canada Aas for prices..in canada we beet walmart 60% of the time 40% within 5 dollars . All that and a tax break of 40%

well if you dont know ..GET the facts before you flap off!! This may or may not be true. I am unfamiliar with Canadian pricing. If it’s anything like Canadian health care……

The best in the world!! I donot pay for my illness what about you. How much $$$ would a heart attack cost you. You show your Intellegence In my AMERICAN experience with Amway, their wholesale prices can easily be beat by the local department stores.

Check again… you are in business to sell soap and toilet paper..just like safeway..compare again. Dont forget to add pv/bv and a 40% TAX BREAK AT YEAR END You sound like a poor poor fool with plenty of FREE advice GET all the FACTS Dave I HAVE the facts…I just don’t look at them through rose colored glasses!

Really…. you fooled me .I am in amway for years and your AMWAY is different than mine..WHY? you know it alls know you have to go to work tommorrow dave …31 and By the way, Dave, you still haven’t answered my question as to why you don’t use your REAL e-mail address. What are you afraid of?

it is in my news browser The problems at your end.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If Amway does not work how come they do 8 billion a year Amway makes a lot of money. Unfortunatly this isn’t simply because of their network marketing program. Amway has other interests including a very large trucking company which pulls in a lot of money. Not only that, but since many of these MLM programs are only in America, Amway pulls in huge cash from Japan and other companies that want to be involved in MLMs. You WILL find that Amway America is dying. It is no longer in a growth rate. It is in a decline and lossing distributors. The only place Amway is still in a growth stage is Amway Japan. I am tired of crap like this has the balls to compare with Amway. Amway is an old company. The problem is is that Amway is using out of date marketing plans. We are finding that companys can review and update Amway’s plan and grow far faster than Amway ever dreamed of. If you notice, Amway is also paying out too much. That is why the products are too expensive. No one, except zelic Amway worshipers actually buy anything in the catalogs except for the few people that like the Amway soaps which actually are the only products that you can buy cheaply. Tell me who makes your products for this scam what do you know about amway that the presidents of 500 fortune 500 companies dont know? As for this comment, the author obviously isn’t very familiar with a thing we call capitalism. . Who cares what companies distribute their products as long as it makes money. Plus, Zelic Amwayists are loyal and will buy through Amway. It is almost guaranteed sales for them. I agree with the posts below.. Mike says the rest In this particular post, I agree with you. Amway does a lot of business. They have proven that MLM works as a mode of distributing product. However, let’s get real. Amway is not the ONLY viable MLM out there, as you seem to want to imply all the time. They are many. Yes, most fail in their first couple of years. This is not as a result of a bad program (many that fail are stairstep/breakaways…just like Amway!), but usually because of underfunding, poor management, etc. As far as the Fortune 500 CEO’s are concerned, they see a fast way to distribute their products…that’s all. They are not necessarily ENDORSING Amway by their association with them (which is NOT what most Amway distributors have been told). It is NOT a partnership, or anything of the sort. Amway simply is acting as the middleman for their product or service. Mike

Joshua, Thank you for the compliment on my posts! As most will find out, I have nothing against Amway…they have been very successful. I do, however, have a problem with deceptive tactics, cultism, etc that seems to run rampant in the Dexter Yager downline. I recognize this is not Amway’s fault…but they have done nothing to stop it. Mike

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Directions In Health is a 4 year old debt free Network Marketing company. In April 1995 it adopted a Binary Compensation Plan, and now does approximately 1 million dollars per week in volume. Binary Compensation Plan: 1. Create a business center; fill out an application (at no cost). 2. Qualify business center by purchasing $200 worth of product. 3. Sponsor two representatives, one on left side, one on right side. Any additional reps sponsored by you must be placed in your rep’s downline. Likewise any spillover from your upline can be placed in your downline. Simply help your two reps accomplish steps 1,2, and 3. Payout: Step I- L/S reaches $1200 – R/S reaches $1200- You get $400. Step II- L/S does another $1,200 – R/S does the same- You get another $400. Step III- L/S= $1,200 – R/S= $1,200- You get $600, which includes Leadership Bonus. When both sides do $3,600 each, you would receive a check for $2,000 which includes $1,400 in commission plus $600 for leadership bonus. All levels can be accomplished weekly, monthly, or however long it takes, depending on how fast your business grows. The company pays weekly. As your volume increases, your payout increases to a maximum of $2,000 per week per business center. You can enter the business with more than one business center, and earn an additional business center the first time you reach Step III. Representatives Do Not: – Deliver Products – Warehouse Products – Figure Commissions – Attend Pep Rallies The Company Does: – Keep track of business volume – Pay commission on dollar for dollar volume – Deliver the products to the customers – Take care of the business details – Have access to up-line leaders Guarantee: There is a 100% buy back guarantee the first 60 days. Then a 90% buy back gaurantee for the remainder of the first year. Products: – Nutritional Supplements, Herbs, Vitamins, Weight Control Products. – Five Star Soap and Cleaning Products. – Makeup and Personal Care Products. – Gold, Silver and Diamond Jewelry. – Sports Equipment- Personalized Golf Clubs. This is a brief overview; if you like what you see, e-mail me. Mike LaPiano

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Mike The only people that dont make money sdont work it right.

Yes, Dave, I do know the difference. I am, after all, a licensed minister whose special area of study is both the OCCULT and CULTS. Amway has long been accused of being involved in the OCCULT…a charge which I do NOT BELIEVE. This has always been based on their symbol, etc. I meant JUST WHAT I SAID…..CULT! There is a definite cult-like atmosphere in Amway. Things such as "if someone doesn’t see the opportunity, they are not worth associating with" (a philosophy taught by the Yager crowd). Ever been to a convention (group brainwashing session)? Talk about cult-like tactics! For a real eye-opener, read the book "AMWAY: Cult of Free Enterprise". The fastest growing amway group is infact north america…lethbridge alberta canada Aas for prices..in canada we beet walmart 60% of the time 40% within 5 dollars . All that and a tax break of 40%

This may or may not be true. I am unfamiliar with Canadian pricing. If it’s anything like Canadian health care…… In my AMERICAN experience with Amway, their wholesale prices can easily be beat by the local department stores. You sound like a poor poor fool with plenty of FREE advice GET all the FACTS

Dave I HAVE the facts…I just don’t look at them through rose colored glasses! you know it alls know you have to go to work tommorrow dave …31 and

By the way, Dave, you still haven’t answered my question as to why you don’t use your REAL e-mail address. What are you afraid of? Mike

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Directions In Health is a 4 year old debt free Network Marketing company. In April 1995 it adopted a Binary Compensation Plan, and now does approximately 1 million dollars per week in volume. Binary Compensation Plan: 1. Create a business center; fill out an application (at no cost). 2. Qualify business center by purchasing $200 worth of product. 3. Sponsor two representatives, one on left side, one on right side. Any additional reps sponsored by you must be placed in your rep’s downline. Likewise any spillover from your upline can be placed in your downline. Simply help your two reps accomplish steps 1,2, and 3. Payout: Step I- L/S reaches $1200 – R/S reaches $1200- You get $400. Step II- L/S does another $1,200 – R/S does the same- You get another $400. Step III- L/S= $1,200 – R/S= $1,200- You get $600, which includes Leadership Bonus. When both sides do $3,600 each, you would receive a check for $2,000 which includes $1,400 in commission plus $600 for leadership bonus. All levels can be accomplished weekly, monthly, or however long it takes, depending on how fast your business grows. The company pays weekly. As your volume increases, your payout increases to a maximum of $2,000 per week per business center. You can enter the business with more than one business center, and earn an additional business center the first time you reach Step III. Representatives Do Not: – Deliver Products – Warehouse Products – Figure Commissions – Attend Pep Rallies The Company Does: – Keep track of business volume – Pay commission on dollar for dollar volume – Deliver the products to the customers – Take care of the business details – Have access to up-line leaders Guarantee: There is a 100% buy back guarantee the first 60 days. Then a 90% buy back gaurantee for the remainder of the first year. Products: – Nutritional Supplements, Herbs, Vitamins, Weight Control Products. – Five Star Soap and Cleaning Products. – Makeup and Personal Care Products. – Gold, Silver and Diamond Jewelry. – Sports Equipment- Personalized Golf Clubs. This is a brief overview; if you would like more info, e-mail me. Mike LaPiano

If Amway does not work how come they do 8 billion a year I am tired of crap like this has the balls to compare with Amway. Tell me who makes your products for this scam what do you know about amway that the presidents of 500 fortune 500 companies dont know?

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In this particular post, I agree with you. Amway does a lot of business. They have proven that MLM works as a mode of distributing product. However, let’s get real. Amway is not the ONLY viable MLM out there, as you seem to want to imply all the time. They are many. Yes, most fail in their first couple of years. This is not as a result of a bad program (many that fail are stairstep/breakaways…just like Amway!), but usually because of underfunding, poor management, etc. As far as the Fortune 500 CEO’s are concerned, they see a fast way to distribute their products…that’s all. They are not necessarily ENDORSING Amway by their association with them (which is NOT what most Amway distributors have been told). It is NOT a partnership, or anything of the sort. Amway simply is acting as the middleman for their product or service. Mike

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If Amway does not work how come they do 8 billion a year

Amway makes a lot of money. Unfortunatly this isn’t simply because of their network marketing program. Amway has other interests including a very large trucking company which pulls in a lot of money. Not only that, but since many of these MLM programs are only in America, Amway pulls in huge cash from Japan and other companies that want to be involved in MLMs. You WILL find that Amway America is dying. It is no longer in a growth rate. It is in a decline and lossing distributors. The only place Amway is still in a growth stage is Amway Japan. I am tired of crap like this has the balls to compare with Amway.

Amway is an old company. The problem is is that Amway is using out of date marketing plans. We are finding that companys can review and update Amway’s plan and grow far faster than Amway ever dreamed of. If you notice, Amway is also paying out too much. That is why the products are too expensive. No one, except zelic Amway worshipers actually buy anything in the catalogs except for the few people that like the Amway soaps which actually are the only products that you can buy cheaply. Tell me who makes your products for this scam what do you know about amway that the presidents of 500 fortune 500 companies dont know?

As for this comment, the author obviously isn’t very familiar with a thing we call capitalism. . Who cares what companies distribute their products as long as it makes money. Plus, Zelic Amwayists are loyal and will buy through Amway. It is almost guaranteed sales for them. I agree with the posts below.. Mike says the rest – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In this particular post, I agree with you. Amway does a lot of business. They have proven that MLM works as a mode of distributing product. However, let’s get real. Amway is not the ONLY viable MLM out there, as you seem to want to imply all the time. They are many. Yes, most fail in their first couple of years. This is not as a result of a bad program (many that fail are stairstep/breakaways…just like Amway!), but usually because of underfunding, poor management, etc. As far as the Fortune 500 CEO’s are concerned, they see a fast way to distribute their products…that’s all. They are not necessarily ENDORSING Amway by their association with them (which is NOT what most Amway distributors have been told). It is NOT a partnership, or anything of the sort. Amway simply is acting as the middleman for their product or service. Mike

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