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Shy Extrovert on "Shipmates"

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Joel <molecu…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:9venb5$g6b$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu… > "oxidation" <oxinthe…@dontmesswithtexas.com> wrote in message > news:9vedcp$dfn$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu… > | > | "Justin Urban" <polep…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > | news:3C1AA145.6D5CE242@yahoo.com… > | "long > | > hair and pretty face". > | > | Why long hair?  Short haired girls are hot. > Short hair -is- hot, but medium length hair (say, down to her shoulders) has > its advantages, while still looking ’shortish’.What advantages? It hangs > down… brushes against the skin.. mm.. :)

My thoughts exactly :) ) And you can touch it and tuck it behind her ear and ……. WAAAA ok im torturing myself so ill stop… lol! Ed

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oxidation <oxinthe…@dontmesswithtexas.com> wrote in message

news:9vedcp$dfn$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu… > "Justin Urban" <polep…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:3C1AA145.6D5CE242@yahoo.com… > "long > > hair and pretty face". > Why long hair?  Short haired girls are hot.

Well im attracted to long hair more, so maybe… Ed

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oxidation <oxinthe…@dontmesswithtexas.com> wrote in message

news:9vedcp$dfn$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu… > "Justin Urban" <polep…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:3C1AA145.6D5CE242@yahoo.com… > "long > > hair and pretty face". > Why long hair?  Short haired girls are hot.

It’s all about the medium neck length hair.. hot hot hot

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Apparently Matt thinks such behaviour = being a looser Ed Justin Urban <polep…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:3C1AA145.6D5CE242@yahoo.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This doesn’t seem too surprising to me, in fact it sounds right on > with Dr. Gilmartin’s statements in Chapter 1, in the section > "Normative Timetables of Self-Revelation," where he discusses > how shy men are "extremely romantic and sentimental" and > how they wish to totally bypass the courtship ‘game’  and > go directly into romance.  This of course scares women away, > when the man is so upfront with his romantic inclinations. > Here’s an excerpt: > "Now, love-shy men are extremely romantic and sentimental. This > sort of play-acting (which is absolutely required by our courtship system) > represents an abomination to them. They want to find someone who > will accept and love them as they are. And when they spot someone with > the appropriate (and much desired) long hair and pretty face, they strongly > desire to intimate their very strong interest in marriage vis-a-vis that > person as early in the relationship as possible. In short, they don’t want > to beat around the bush. Dating and courtship for love-shy men hold > no special allure. Most love-shy men would love to completely bypass > the "game" of dating and courtship, and get right into a permanent, > binding relationship with their romantic image of the girl with the "long > hair and pretty face". >       Needless to say, such outright candor early in a relationship enor- > mously scares and frightens away most women–particularly the attrac- > tive ones who are likely to be very much used to the "game" of dating. > The love-shy man is thus viewed as "weird" for verbalizing himself and > his true desires and fantasies too early in a relationship…." > Rightly said, and describes this episode of "Shipmates" to a tee. > Feel free to read teh rest of the section at > http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/polepino/Chapter01/Normativetimetables.html > Later, > Justin > naturallyweird wrote: > > If anyone watched the episode last night, then for > > that person, this post is extraneous.  Nevertheless… > > I had never watched an entire episode of it before; > > thus, I may be mistaken about how the show works, but > > last night, it involved a series of arranged dates > > between a weird-looking part-time male model and some > > (apparently normal) female. > > When he introduced himself to his date, he handed her > > a flower (not a red rose, but something similar). > > Soon, he told her he is shy and asked her if she is > > (no, she isn’t – duh).  Let’s see….  He quickly very > > bluntly inquired about her love life (to which she > > questioned his shyness).  He volunteered that most > > people/most women find him weird.  He made weird, > > childlike exclamations in the casino lobby. > > [I may be going out of chronological order here.] > > He removed his earring to suit her, after she > > confessed to thinking it made him look weird(er). > > For some reason, though it was clear she had already > > LJBFed him, she invited him to her cabin to wish her > > goodnight, whereupon he gave her an overly romantic > > smooch. > > On the second date, he showed her a ring he had just > > bought.  (Scary!) > > Sometime during date #3, she told him that she did not > > want to be his gf, things became a little testy, and I > > went to bed. > > BTW, between the dates, there were clips in which the > > participants shared their thoughts about each other. > > The model was saying how much he liked her, while – in > > a cringing manner – she was commenting on his > > weirdness and how she was being nice by giving him > > another chance. > > If I’m a little short on details, it’s not just > > because I am not very detail-oriented; it’s because > > the guy’s creepy(Maasian) behavior, the woman’s using > > him, and the show’s making fun of the whole situation > > disgusted me and made me turn off the TV/change the > > channel periodically. > > Lessons? > > 1) Never unquestionably take the advice of shy > > extroverts or alleged ‘formerly shy’ extroverts. > > While even Al Leitch isn’t as stupid as the male model > > in "Shipmates," the recommendations given by such > > people are almost always terrible nonetheless. > > 2) Good looks may get you second chances, but > > prolonged abnormal behavior will ‘earn’ a LJBF in the > > end. > > 3) Always follow social protocol in public and when > > first getting to know someone. > > 4) You can’t make someone like you, it is rarely worth > > trying (and that ‘trying’ involves letting it go for a > > while), and sucking up to someone is always counterproductive. > > ===== > > Joe > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of > > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com > > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > — > > For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail: > > h…@anon.twwells.com   — for an automatically returned help message > > ad…@anon.twwells.com  – for the service’s administrator > > ano…@anon.twwells.com — anonymous mail to the administrator

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This doesn’t seem too surprising to me, in fact it sounds right on with Dr. Gilmartin’s statements in Chapter 1, in the section "Normative Timetables of Self-Revelation," where he discusses how shy men are "extremely romantic and sentimental" and how they wish to totally bypass the courtship ‘game’  and go directly into romance.  This of course scares women away, when the man is so upfront with his romantic inclinations. Here’s an excerpt: "Now, love-shy men are extremely romantic and sentimental. This sort of play-acting (which is absolutely required by our courtship system) represents an abomination to them. They want to find someone who will accept and love them as they are. And when they spot someone with the appropriate (and much desired) long hair and pretty face, they strongly desire to intimate their very strong interest in marriage vis-a-vis that person as early in the relationship as possible. In short, they don’t want to beat around the bush. Dating and courtship for love-shy men hold no special allure. Most love-shy men would love to completely bypass the "game" of dating and courtship, and get right into a permanent, binding relationship with their romantic image of the girl with the "long hair and pretty face".       Needless to say, such outright candor early in a relationship enor- mously scares and frightens away most women–particularly the attrac- tive ones who are likely to be very much used to the "game" of dating. The love-shy man is thus viewed as "weird" for verbalizing himself and his true desires and fantasies too early in a relationship…." Rightly said, and describes this episode of "Shipmates" to a tee. Feel free to read teh rest of the section at http://www.angelfire.com/ab6/polepino/Chapter01/Normativetimetables.html Later, Justin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -naturallyweird wrote: > If anyone watched the episode last night, then for > that person, this post is extraneous.  Nevertheless… > I had never watched an entire episode of it before; > thus, I may be mistaken about how the show works, but > last night, it involved a series of arranged dates > between a weird-looking part-time male model and some > (apparently normal) female. > When he introduced himself to his date, he handed her > a flower (not a red rose, but something similar). > Soon, he told her he is shy and asked her if she is > (no, she isn’t – duh).  Let’s see….  He quickly very > bluntly inquired about her love life (to which she > questioned his shyness).  He volunteered that most > people/most women find him weird.  He made weird, > childlike exclamations in the casino lobby. > [I may be going out of chronological order here.] > He removed his earring to suit her, after she > confessed to thinking it made him look weird(er). > For some reason, though it was clear she had already > LJBFed him, she invited him to her cabin to wish her > goodnight, whereupon he gave her an overly romantic > smooch. > On the second date, he showed her a ring he had just > bought.  (Scary!) > Sometime during date #3, she told him that she did not > want to be his gf, things became a little testy, and I > went to bed. > BTW, between the dates, there were clips in which the > participants shared their thoughts about each other. > The model was saying how much he liked her, while – in > a cringing manner – she was commenting on his > weirdness and how she was being nice by giving him > another chance. > If I’m a little short on details, it’s not just > because I am not very detail-oriented; it’s because > the guy’s creepy(Maasian) behavior, the woman’s using > him, and the show’s making fun of the whole situation > disgusted me and made me turn off the TV/change the > channel periodically. > Lessons? > 1) Never unquestionably take the advice of shy > extroverts or alleged ‘formerly shy’ extroverts. > While even Al Leitch isn’t as stupid as the male model > in "Shipmates," the recommendations given by such > people are almost always terrible nonetheless. > 2) Good looks may get you second chances, but > prolonged abnormal behavior will ‘earn’ a LJBF in the > end. > 3) Always follow social protocol in public and when > first getting to know someone. > 4) You can’t make someone like you, it is rarely worth > trying (and that ‘trying’ involves letting it go for a > while), and sucking up to someone is always counterproductive. > ===== > Joe > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > — > For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail: > h…@anon.twwells.com   — for an automatically returned help message > ad…@anon.twwells.com  – for the service’s administrator > ano…@anon.twwells.com — anonymous mail to the administrator

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oxidation wrote: > Why long hair?  Short haired girls are hot.

I know, I know! I love shorthaired girls too!  In fact they have become my primary preference(still love all in the end though).  But, I think that statement is due to the fact that the book was written in the late 70’s  to early 80’s.  Gilmartin based the "long hair"  thing on his interviews with the shy-men and their preferences.  Obviously, hairstyles are subject to time period.  The "pretty face" thing, I think, is still universal though. Justin

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"oxidation" <oxinthe…@dontmesswithtexas.com> wrote in message

news:9vedcp$dfn$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu… | | "Justin Urban" <polep…@yahoo.com> wrote in message | news:3C1AA145.6D5CE242@yahoo.com… | "long | > hair and pretty face". | | Why long hair?  Short haired girls are hot. Short hair -is- hot, but medium length hair (say, down to her shoulders) has its advantages, while still looking ’shortish’.What advantages? It hangs down… brushes against the skin.. mm.. :) –Joel, who wishes it hadn’t been a decade or so since he felt that last.

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"Justin Urban" <polep…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:3C1AA145.6D5CE242@yahoo.com… "long > hair and pretty face".

Why long hair?  Short haired girls are hot.

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If anyone watched the episode last night, then for that person, this post is extraneous.  Nevertheless… I had never watched an entire episode of it before; thus, I may be mistaken about how the show works, but last night, it involved a series of arranged dates between a weird-looking part-time male model and some (apparently normal) female. When he introduced himself to his date, he handed her a flower (not a red rose, but something similar). Soon, he told her he is shy and asked her if she is (no, she isn’t – duh).  Let’s see….  He quickly very bluntly inquired about her love life (to which she questioned his shyness).  He volunteered that most people/most women find him weird.  He made weird, childlike exclamations in the casino lobby. [I may be going out of chronological order here.] He removed his earring to suit her, after she confessed to thinking it made him look weird(er). For some reason, though it was clear she had already LJBFed him, she invited him to her cabin to wish her goodnight, whereupon he gave her an overly romantic smooch. On the second date, he showed her a ring he had just bought.  (Scary!) Sometime during date #3, she told him that she did not want to be his gf, things became a little testy, and I went to bed. BTW, between the dates, there were clips in which the participants shared their thoughts about each other. The model was saying how much he liked her, while – in a cringing manner – she was commenting on his weirdness and how she was being nice by giving him another chance. If I’m a little short on details, it’s not just because I am not very detail-oriented; it’s because the guy’s creepy(Maasian) behavior, the woman’s using him, and the show’s making fun of the whole situation disgusted me and made me turn off the TV/change the channel periodically. Lessons? 1) Never unquestionably take the advice of shy extroverts or alleged ‘formerly shy’ extroverts. While even Al Leitch isn’t as stupid as the male model in "Shipmates," the recommendations given by such people are almost always terrible nonetheless. 2) Good looks may get you second chances, but prolonged abnormal behavior will ‘earn’ a LJBF in the end. 3) Always follow social protocol in public and when first getting to know someone. 4) You can’t make someone like you, it is rarely worth trying (and that ‘trying’ involves letting it go for a while), and sucking up to someone is always counterproductive. ===== Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com — For info about this service, see http://anon.twwells.com/help/ or e-mail: h…@anon.twwells.com   — for an automatically returned help message ad…@anon.twwells.com  – for the service’s administrator ano…@anon.twwells.com — anonymous mail to the administrator

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