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Foster Care- It's A Different World by Jo Ann Wentzel

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Especially when what you are involved in is so negative… such as kidnapping and holding hostage and stealing the children of innocent parents 85-95+% of the time, and providing a situation where the children in your ‘care’ are eight to ten TIMES (or more) as likely to be abused, neglected or killed as in real families left unmolested by Gestapo CPS… and where statistics clearly show that on average children who have ever been in foster care at all fare far less well than children who have never been in foster care. I guess with all that hanging over you a little positive, even if nothing but onesided specious propaganda, is better than nothing, eh? <chuckle> Ronald Hunter wrote: > Thank you for posting this message.  Sometimes we fosterparents need to hear > something positive. > "Wex Wimpy" <wexwi…@citicom.com> wrote in message

– ============================================================= Home Page: http://members.home.net/silverstorm/ We will never rest until Gestapo CPS is completely abolished!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -free_kaler wrote: > In article <d2d67.174148$v5.15329…@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>, Ron says… > >"free_kaler" <free_ka…@my-deja.com> wrote in message > >news:uu767.1690$ar1.6261@www.newsranger.com… > >> In article <oD667.34733$JN6.6784…@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Ronald Hunter > >> says… > >> >Thank you for posting this message.  Sometimes we fosterparents need to > >hear > >> >something positive. > >> After all the butt kissing, I can imagine that you do. > >Free, you have become so caustic over the last few weeks, are you getting > >enough fiber in your diet? > >Ron > Why do ask Ron?  You want to check my butt?  (LoL) I find your question very > (quite) amusing considering that just yesterday you posted this:

Beware, as MoRon Mitty, in his tendency as a Gestapo CPS apologist and butt kisser/licker might take you up on it…. 9-} — ============================================================= Home Page: http://members.home.net/silverstorm/ We will never rest until Gestapo CPS is completely abolished!

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"free_kaler" <free_ka…@my-deja.com> wrote in message

news:Qwi67.2142$ar1.6353@www.newsranger.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <d2d67.174148$v5.15329…@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>, Ron says… > >"free_kaler" <free_ka…@my-deja.com> wrote in message > >news:uu767.1690$ar1.6261@www.newsranger.com… > >> In article <oD667.34733$JN6.6784…@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Ronald Hunter > >> says… > >> >Thank you for posting this message.  Sometimes we fosterparents need to > >hear > >> >something positive. > >> After all the butt kissing, I can imagine that you do. > >Free, you have become so caustic over the last few weeks, are you getting > >enough fiber in your diet? > >Ron > Why do ask Ron?  You want to check my butt?  (LoL) I find your question very > (quite) amusing considering that just yesterday you posted this:

I’m sure that your butt is as big as it always has been, but I was inquiring about your diet, not your butt.  Normally your not quiute as abrasive as you have been in the last few weeks, and it was just a curious question.  Feel free to act and react any way you like, I dont really care, but you are showing a distinct change in your posts and the abruptness of your responses.  Just asking if everything is OK or if there is a reason for such a change. As for my posts, sometimes I’m caustic, sometimes I’m not.  Depends on who I am responding to and about what.  Dont worry your little head about it, you have to much to worry about now to be concerned with me. Ron

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In article <c8j67.175106$v5.15448…@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>, Ron says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"free_kaler" <free_ka…@my-deja.com> wrote in message >news:Qwi67.2142$ar1.6353@www.newsranger.com… >> In article <d2d67.174148$v5.15329…@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>, Ron says… >> >"free_kaler" <free_ka…@my-deja.com> wrote in message >> >news:uu767.1690$ar1.6261@www.newsranger.com… >> >> In article <oD667.34733$JN6.6784…@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Ronald >Hunter >> >> says… >> >> >Thank you for posting this message.  Sometimes we fosterparents need >to >> >hear >> >> >something positive. >> >> After all the butt kissing, I can imagine that you do. >> >Free, you have become so caustic over the last few weeks, are you getting >> >enough fiber in your diet? >> >Ron >> Why do ask Ron?  You want to check my butt?  (LoL) I find your question >very >> (quite) amusing considering that just yesterday you posted this: >I’m sure that your butt is as big as it always has been, but I was inquiring >about your diet, not your butt.  Normally your not quiute as abrasive as you >have been in the last few weeks, and it was just a curious question.  Feel >free to act and react any way you like, I dont really care, but you are >showing a distinct change in your posts and the abruptness of your >responses.  Just asking if everything is OK or if there is a reason for such >a change. >As for my posts, sometimes I’m caustic, sometimes I’m not.  Depends on who I >am responding to and about what.  Dont worry your little head about it, you >have to much to worry about now to be concerned with me.

I’m your Huckelberry.  Still having a hard time sleeping at night, eh?  Noticed you snipped your hypocracy. Message 1 in thread From: Ron (lucky5ed…@netscape.net) Subject: Some People! Newsgroups: alt.support.foster-parents Date: 2001-07-20 07:08:05 PST I find amazing how stupid some people are, but then again we have Neal dont we. Ron >Ron

"..and that you may never experience the humility that the power of the American Government has reduced me to, is the wish of him, who, in his native forests, was once as proud and bold as yourself."  Black Hawk, 1833

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In article <oD667.34733$JN6.6784…@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Ronald Hunter says… >Thank you for posting this message.  Sometimes we fosterparents need to hear >something positive.

After all the butt kissing, I can imagine that you do. <snip> "..and that you may never experience the humility that the power of the American Government has reduced me to, is the wish of him, who, in his native forests, was once as proud and bold as yourself."  Black Hawk, 1833

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"free_kaler" <free_ka…@my-deja.com> wrote in message

news:uu767.1690$ar1.6261@www.newsranger.com… > In article <oD667.34733$JN6.6784…@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Ronald Hunter > says… > >Thank you for posting this message.  Sometimes we fosterparents need to hear > >something positive. > After all the butt kissing, I can imagine that you do.

Free, you have become so caustic over the last few weeks, are you getting enough fiber in your diet? Ron

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In article <d2d67.174148$v5.15329…@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>, Ron says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"free_kaler" <free_ka…@my-deja.com> wrote in message >news:uu767.1690$ar1.6261@www.newsranger.com… >> In article <oD667.34733$JN6.6784…@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Ronald Hunter >> says… >> >Thank you for posting this message.  Sometimes we fosterparents need to >hear >> >something positive. >> After all the butt kissing, I can imagine that you do. >Free, you have become so caustic over the last few weeks, are you getting >enough fiber in your diet? >Ron

Why do ask Ron?  You want to check my butt?  (LoL) I find your question very (quite) amusing considering that just yesterday you posted this: Message 1 in thread From: Ron (lucky5ed…@netscape.net) Subject: Some People! Newsgroups: alt.support.foster-parents Date: 2001-07-20 07:08:05 PST I find amazing how stupid some people are, but then again we have Neal dont we. Ron "..and that you may never experience the humility that the power of the American Government has reduced me to, is the wish of him, who, in his native forests, was once as proud and bold as yourself."  Black Hawk, 1833

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Thank you for posting this message.  Sometimes we fosterparents need to hear something positive. "Wex Wimpy" <wexwi…@citicom.com> wrote in message

news:b5obltool9vckr09rmlc28519cm0v7bons@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Foster Care- It’s A Different Worldby Jo Ann Wentzel > Families are challenging today. When you have a traditional number of > kidsit is difficult, when you have additional kids, more than the > average home,and challenging kids such as in foster care, the world > you live in isa different place. Thinking about the fact that foster > parents open up their homes to strangers and immediately make family > members of them is something that the average family doesn’t do. Your > world is very unlike that of your non-fostering neighbors. > Large families are familiar with some of the problems involved with > caringfor a whole mob of kids. Everything you do is on a large scale- > cooking,shopping, laundry, school events, doctors, illnesses and > meetings. I thinkthey have some idea of what life as a foster parent > is like. But, fosterparents have all this and then add the stress of a > variety of behavioralproblems, learning disabilities and kids just > trying to push the envelope -and lots of these kids. Family dinners > look like Roman feasts with all thedishes. > A parent in a melded family resulting from several marriages and each > spouse bringing their own children to the family have some idea of > what the family dynamics are for a foster family. But as foster > parents you have a wholearray of personalities that you are trying to > make into a unit to functionas a family. The numbers and look of the > family change constantly as kids come and go. That is what makes your > situation so unusual. > Most families have problems and crisis occasionally; a foster family > lives it 24/7. There is usually at least one child among your brood > who thinks itis his job to keep you in a constant state of anxiety. > You wonder if theoldest one is doing drugs. You may worry the middle > one has a very strongcrush on an older girl. The next two are both > experiencing school problemsand one has been thrown off the bus for > ‘acting out’. The smallest one isnot responding well to love and > attention. You believe she isn’t bondingwith you and your husband. And > those are just the beginning since problemscan change hourly and new > kids can arrive with their own set of problems.Older kids can move out > on their own, or get put into another facility. The face of the family > constantly changes. > In many regular homes, where kids are doing fine, rules established, > andlife somewhat normal, parent’s day ends at a reasonable bedtime and > beginsat breakfast. Not so for the foster parent who needs to do a bed > check, orwait up for kids with later curfews, or do all those things > the too-shortday didn’t include. Maybe a new crisis breaks out or you > have a suicidalteen or one that is simply too upset to sleep, your day > lengthens. Maybesomeone just needs to bear their soul or have finally > become ready to makean important revelation. Whatever the reason, your > job is not a 9-5 one. > Foster parents must know so many things to get through one day, that > yourworld barely resembles that of most parents. You need to have more > than aworking knowledge of drugs. A foster parent needs to know the > signs ofabuse. There is a need to understand reverse psychology and > the concepts ofreinforcement and re-direction. You need to be great at > logistics since youmust be everywhere at once and also learning how to > stretch a dollar or aday will add to your value. > As foster parents we must display more patience and control than > otherparents, because kids coming into our homes are not well-behaved > usually,they are not in-control themselves, and they do not want to be > theresometimes. Raising kids requires patience no matter what kind of > parent you are, but a foster parent cannot lose it without fear of > repercussions and possibly losing that child. They are and must always > be the professionals. > The chaos and craziness that is the norm for a foster parent is hard > to understand for most people. The question of why you do this along > with the usual statement, "I could never do what you do" lets foster > parents knowthey are not exactly like average people. The fact that > you like it and won’t do anything else convinces the world you are > different. This fact means that friends must come from the ranks of > other ‘crazy’ people just like you-namely foster parents. > So when your world seems like it is from another planet and you feel > likeyou live on the fringe of society, when your day resembles nothing > like your parents and you look in the mirror and do not recognize that > wild eyed parent, you know, it is true. You live in a different world. > But most times it is a wonderful world- rewarding and interesting and > you do make adifference. > Congratulations for being you and able to handle those outer limits.

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Foster Care- It’s A Different Worldby Jo Ann Wentzel Families are challenging today. When you have a traditional number of kidsit is difficult, when you have additional kids, more than the average home,and challenging kids such as in foster care, the world you live in isa different place. Thinking about the fact that foster parents open up their homes to strangers and immediately make family members of them is something that the average family doesn’t do. Your world is very unlike that of your non-fostering neighbors. Large families are familiar with some of the problems involved with caringfor a whole mob of kids. Everything you do is on a large scale- cooking,shopping, laundry, school events, doctors, illnesses and meetings. I thinkthey have some idea of what life as a foster parent is like. But, fosterparents have all this and then add the stress of a variety of behavioralproblems, learning disabilities and kids just trying to push the envelope -and lots of these kids. Family dinners look like Roman feasts with all thedishes. A parent in a melded family resulting from several marriages and each spouse bringing their own children to the family have some idea of what the family dynamics are for a foster family. But as foster parents you have a wholearray of personalities that you are trying to make into a unit to functionas a family. The numbers and look of the family change constantly as kids come and go. That is what makes your situation so unusual. Most families have problems and crisis occasionally; a foster family lives it 24/7. There is usually at least one child among your brood who thinks itis his job to keep you in a constant state of anxiety. You wonder if theoldest one is doing drugs. You may worry the middle one has a very strongcrush on an older girl. The next two are both experiencing school problemsand one has been thrown off the bus for ‘acting out’. The smallest one isnot responding well to love and attention. You believe she isn’t bondingwith you and your husband. And those are just the beginning since problemscan change hourly and new kids can arrive with their own set of problems.Older kids can move out on their own, or get put into another facility. The face of the family constantly changes. In many regular homes, where kids are doing fine, rules established, andlife somewhat normal, parent’s day ends at a reasonable bedtime and beginsat breakfast. Not so for the foster parent who needs to do a bed check, orwait up for kids with later curfews, or do all those things the too-shortday didn’t include. Maybe a new crisis breaks out or you have a suicidalteen or one that is simply too upset to sleep, your day lengthens. Maybesomeone just needs to bear their soul or have finally become ready to makean important revelation. Whatever the reason, your job is not a 9-5 one. Foster parents must know so many things to get through one day, that yourworld barely resembles that of most parents. You need to have more than aworking knowledge of drugs. A foster parent needs to know the signs ofabuse. There is a need to understand reverse psychology and the concepts ofreinforcement and re-direction. You need to be great at logistics since youmust be everywhere at once and also learning how to stretch a dollar or aday will add to your value. As foster parents we must display more patience and control than otherparents, because kids coming into our homes are not well-behaved usually,they are not in-control themselves, and they do not want to be theresometimes. Raising kids requires patience no matter what kind of parent you are, but a foster parent cannot lose it without fear of repercussions and possibly losing that child. They are and must always be the professionals. The chaos and craziness that is the norm for a foster parent is hard to understand for most people. The question of why you do this along with the usual statement, "I could never do what you do" lets foster parents knowthey are not exactly like average people. The fact that you like it and won’t do anything else convinces the world you are different. This fact means that friends must come from the ranks of other ‘crazy’ people just like you-namely foster parents. So when your world seems like it is from another planet and you feel likeyou live on the fringe of society, when your day resembles nothing like your parents and you look in the mirror and do not recognize that wild eyed parent, you know, it is true. You live in a different world. But most times it is a wonderful world- rewarding and interesting and you do make adifference. Congratulations for being you and able to handle those outer limits.

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