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capt.band…@sbcglobal.net (Bandaid) in news:b600c821.0409012214.5d655b45@posting.google.com: > Cite, please?

google not finding 1st 2nd: Gender … accorded more weight than men to socioeconomic status, ambitiousness, character, and intelligence, and the largest gender differences were observed for cues to … www.psych.utoronto.ca/~peterson/gender/outlinec.htm – my ancedotal experience. keep the humor mild & non-esoteric. i get laughs when i’m just being ‘light & cheerful’(no, not gay), not being terribly humorous.. but maybe that’s a completeley different topic :> — A nude Gollum on your doorstep is          No. (rubs eyes) Help. Mabel, call the orderlies… fetch the straitjacket …

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On 02 Sep 2004 12:24:19 GMT, jimsummer…@aol.com (Jim Summers87) wrote: Hi Greg, I’m intrigued by your post as most of what you say is counter-intuitive and goes against the thrust of what most guys who write books (including me – see http://www.dreamwoman.co.uk) say. What you DON’T say is how often you actually GET LAID? I mean, doing ‘girl talk’ is one thing, but converting from being a ‘girly’ into a man who attracts sexual interest from women – how do you do that? My take – FWIW – is that most women want REAL MEN, not girly boys – but I’d be interested to know how successful you are! cheers Scott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I’m curious to what mysteries mode of talking is,  I know NYC gets in on >"chick talk" and I love how he has shared about it.  Any you guys out >there in on the chick talk? >Honestly myself I would say I’ve always been able to talk to chicks and >do the chick talk thing.  I do have a fairly effenate voice at times and >often am like a camelian with woman or with ethinic groups mirroring >inflection and posture.  Still I have never went as far as I have the >last couple months.  I am purposely going out and being either GAY or >FEMINIE.  I’ve said too any times lately to chicks;  "Do you think my >boobies are going flat?" "Oh honey what do you use on your skin?  You >look so lovely."…. ect…." >GREG just ONE of the girls

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On 1 Sep 2004 18:57:45 GMT, fra…@grex.org (franco) wrote: >A lot of guys turn into clowns to ingratiate themselves to a woman, thinking >that making her laugh is a sure way to win her romantic affection. However, is >humor really a good tool? Below is a quote from a study:

I think it depends on what you mean by ‘humour’ (sorry, British spelling throughout!). Many guys think that ‘humour’ means telling jokes. And that usually means telling not-very-good jokes not very well. Result: woman is embarrassed rather than entertained. Not good. Real-time wit is much more effective than telling jokes, but not everyone can do it. I think many could learn to do it, but are not necessarily willing to put in the time. The best results I have had have been at times when I actually made humourous – and slightly sarcastic (in a fun way) remarks about the woman I was trying to seduce. The more attractive the woman, the more used they are to men giving them the same tired old lines and insincere flattery – and the more BORED they are with all that crap. Here’s an example – and I don’t know how well this translates into US culture but it worked in the UK! I was sitting in a bar talking to a (male) friend, when a truly gorgeous woman strolled in – I mean she was immaculate! It must have taken her all day just to dress and make up. I looked her up and down as she approached, raised one eyebrow very slightly, and when she was close enough, said, (with a dead straight face) "I bet you scrub up well, though." She first looked shocked, then turned red, then laughed. Turned out she had been stood up and we talked for about half an hour. I’ve seen her 3-4 times since and its looking very good (I’m deliberately not divng in too fast on this one). Humour, definitely works if you get it right. Scott http://www.dreamwoman.co.uk

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Scott Holland <canna…@tiscali.co.uk> in news:ktfej0p21g8vtojm0pf2tm0g4gd65l04bf@4ax.com: > On 1 Sep 2004 18:57:45 GMT, fra…@grex.org (franco) wrote: >>A lot of guys turn into clowns to ingratiate themselves to a woman,

or to keep awake  :/ >>thinking that making her laugh is a sure way to win her romantic >>affection. However, is humor really a good tool? Below is a quote from >>a study: > I think it depends on what you mean by ‘humour’ (sorry, British > spelling throughout!). Many guys think that ‘humour’ means telling > jokes. And that usually means telling not-very-good jokes not very > well. Result: woman is embarrassed rather than entertained. Not good. > Real-time wit is much more effective than telling jokes, but not > everyone can do it.

what about those squirting lapel-carnations? or the ‘joy buzzer’ under teh seat cushion? oh ho ho ho ho (just kidding) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I think many could learn to do it, but are not > necessarily willing to put in the time. > The best results I have had have been at times when I actually made > humourous – and slightly sarcastic (in a fun way) remarks about the > woman I was trying to seduce. The more attractive the woman, the more > used they are to men giving them the same tired old lines and > insincere flattery – and the more BORED they are with all that crap. > Here’s an example – and I don’t know how well this translates into US > culture but it worked in the UK! I was sitting in a bar talking to a > (male) friend, when a truly gorgeous woman strolled in – I mean she > was immaculate! It must have taken her all day just to dress and make > up. I looked her up and down as she approached, raised one eyebrow > very slightly, and when she was close enough, said, (with a dead > straight face) "I bet you scrub up well, though." > She first looked shocked, then turned red, then laughed. Turned out > she had been stood up and we talked for about half an hour. I’ve seen > her 3-4 times since and its looking very good (I’m deliberately not > divng in too fast on this one). > Humour, definitely works if you get it right. > Scott > http://www.dreamwoman.co.uk

http://www.dreamwoman.co.uk/affiliates.html looks like a site that would be advertised on asf. i might look it over, but since it’s written in english…  :> hmm.. i’m as natural skeptical as this guy http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=11488&messageid=1090932287 — If Tolkien didn’t want us to eat Hobbits, why did he make them of meat?

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>She first looked shocked, then turned red, then laughed. Turned out >she had been stood up and we talked for about half an hour. I’ve seen >her 3-4 times since and its looking very good (I’m deliberately not >divng in too fast on this one).

 And you think you are ugly? Jesus Christ, what is it with you guys and the inability to realize your level of attractiveness? If you had been ugly that wouldn’t have worked on a fat chick.    BULLSHIT, looks work..your Sir, are NOT ugly…..

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In article <20040902082419.09431.00000…@mb-m05.aol.com>, jimsummers87 @aol.com says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Maybe you’re just not funny? >   Why don’t you try this approach recommended by Speed Seduction? >    Act like a FAG!!! >    I’ll tell ya,  I’ve been noticing something and putting it into much > practice these days.  It has taken me to some differant realms.  About 6 > months ago I read an article in playboy by a guy who spent alot of his > time acting gay and nailing some of the most elite models and actresses > in NYC.  He went pretty much through his life story and how he fit in > with the gays and lived in the gay community and banged chicks left and > right.  Woman who hung with this crowd (Gay fashion designers, > hairstylists… ect..) never suspected he wasn’t gay and would hang > around him because they felt he was safe.  Also he was into hairstyling, > art, fashion, make up… ect… ect…  He could talk for hours with > woman about clothes, make up… ect…  I thought; ok this is cool > stuff.  He did over 2,000 lays living this lifestyle. > Anyway…. > I get to run around with who I consider the most successful player in my > area.  He’s fucking outragiously successful at getting about any kind of > sexual deal going at any time.  The thing is, his voice is so effemate I > can’t believe it.  He talks like a girl.  He dont look like one.  In > fact he’s very macho looking but still… He’s like talking to a chick > and he sounds like a girl.  Even when talks to me he sounds like a girl. > I almost thought he was gay.  He’d talk about his relationships, > girlfriends, clothes… ect…  just like a chick.  It made me sick > because on the outside he looks manly enough but his tonality is so > differant from his looks. > Next I get Rick H’s Masters and methods CDs.  His voice is very feminine > as well and he just talks, talks, talks… like a girl on and on… > This guy has banged over a 1,000 chicks and is famous for landing a > 5-some.  Still you listen to him talk and he gets excited about his > sarges like a school girl!  Rosses voice too would go into the girl talk > mode at times. > Also on the BHSC brother orion who is outragiously successful uses very > effemate tonality.  Sometimes he almost sounds like a girl talking girl > talk to his girlfriend but the differance is he uses seductive > patterning and it’s obvious he is being seductive.  What is seductive > about his tonality is it has the gentleness of a woman.  He uses very > feminine and very gentle soft tonality.  It’s amasing and hard to > describe but woman eat it up!!  I will admit though major Mark and for > the most part Ross use pretty deep male tonality though I often hear > Ross laspe into almost girlish tonality at times.  but I’ll bet they all > can hold thier own being just one of the girls. > Here’s another point.  Most woman’s attitude about picking up chicks is > this:  If you ask a girl how to pick up a chick most of them will tell > you it’s the easiest thing to do.  For example:  My girlfriend picks up > chicks and has NO problem doing so.  It’s so easy it fucking kills me! > She sits with the chick, does light kino, has a girl talk, gets sexual, > off they go to bed with me tagging along.  IT’s so damn easy for her. > She asks me why do I have to work at it so hard.  She seriously can’t > understand why I read ASF or am learning SS.  If you watch her – it > really is so easy.  That’s her perspective.  I’ve watched other woman. > It’s the same thing.  She can talk to girls freely and naturally.  She > knows all the nuances, all the phrases and has talked about sex with > woman since she was a teenager.  She knows how to talk about clothes, > hair, relationshps all in the correct manner and timing.  She even knows > the right small talk.  The thing is when she wants to bed a woman she > usually is into the stage of setting up the lay within 15 minutes.  IT’s > damn fast and damn easy for her. > Also woman on this newsgroup often give advice.  They think their advise > is solid gold.  In fact the mind set is they KNOW it is solid gold.  Oh > yes it would be solid gold for a woman trying to pick up another woman. > Piss poor advice for guys who don’t know all the nuances of female to > female interaction.  You woman on here who advise don’t realise the > enormous gendervantage you hold.  Yes if an AFC could step inside your > skin he would indeed have EASY success but most of us big dumb guys we > have a learning curve to over come being so WAY differant from woman in > not only apperance but also in, tonality, values, cultural programming > ect…  Often the advise would be better understood if you woman would > just tell us guys to:  Be a woman! > so…. > Here’s the practical application and what I think. > All this stuff has added up and I must say the last three months my > sarge stradegy is changing drastically.  I frequently – ACT GAY, ACT > EFFEMATE,  talk about clothes, make up, boys and be one of the girls.  I > practice these skills and woman keep coming back for more.  I have not > experianced this much popularity with woman before.  I have in the past > always been like a shark swimming around and devouring some unsupecting > duck.  Now I am trying to relate to woman on a whole differant level. > I’m making this type of behavior around woman more natural.  It is > powerful, it works and I what I love most is I’m not doing the old games > that I used to use on woman that left them feeling dirty, degraded and > used.  It works!  I can get with girls and just talk and relate about > female interests.  Sometimes they make me a trusted male confident.  I > mean they don’t ignore I’m a male but they over look it because I’m > cool. > I’m curious to what mysteries mode of talking is,  I know NYC gets in on > "chick talk" and I love how he has shared about it.  Any you guys out > there in on the chick talk? > Honestly myself I would say I’ve always been able to talk to chicks and > do the chick talk thing.  I do have a fairly effenate voice at times and > often am like a camelian with woman or with ethinic groups mirroring > inflection and posture.  Still I have never went as far as I have the > last couple months.  I am purposely going out and being either GAY or > FEMINIE.  I’ve said too any times lately to chicks;  "Do you think my > boobies are going flat?" "Oh honey what do you use on your skin?  You > look so lovely."…. ect…." > GREG just ONE of the girls > — > Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.

so how many have you banged? — I promise to spank the plank daily.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"ci+" <c…@ciNukeSpam.com> wrote in message <news:Xns95583623096CDci@65.245.115.2>… > capt.band…@sbcglobal.net (Bandaid) in > news:b600c821.0409012214.5d655b45@posting.google.com: > > Cite, please? > google > not finding 1st > 2nd: > Gender > … accorded more weight than men to socioeconomic status, > ambitiousness, character, > and intelligence, and the largest gender differences were observed for > cues to … > www.psych.utoronto.ca/~peterson/gender/outlinec.htm – > my ancedotal experience. keep the humor mild & non-esoteric. i get > laughs when i’m just being ‘light & cheerful’(no, not gay), not being > terribly humorous.. but maybe that’s a completeley different topic :>

It sounds like you’re saying you should go for wit, not a comedy routine.  If that’s what you’re saying, I agree with you.  Thanks for the cite.

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jimsummer…@aol.com (Jim Summers87) wrote in message <news:20040902082419.09431.00000094@mb-m05.aol.com>… > >Maybe you’re just not funny? >    I’ll tell ya,

Nobody wants to hear your advice in asf and nobody with 2 fucking functional brain cells wants to hear it here either. Who wants to end up a 38 year old virgin who lives with his mother? That’s what you got! Catfish

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jimsummer…@aol.com (Jim Summers87) wrote in message <news:20040901233938.18867.00000014@mb-m01.aol.com>… > >It was for me, for the kind of woman I was after. >   Yes, a woman who was uglier than you. Franco is right, humor means nothing on > it’s own unless the guy is also wealthy and attractive.

Many clones – same message. Catfish

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -fra…@grex.org (franco) wrote in message <news:2pmkd9Fmfu02U1@uni-berlin.de>… > A lot of guys turn into clowns to ingratiate themselves to a woman, thinking > that making her laugh is a sure way to win her romantic affection. However, is > humor really a good tool? Below is a quote from a study: > "…individuals, particularly men, expressing humor were rated as more > desirable than nonhumorous individuals for a serious relationship and marriage, > but only when these individuals were physically attractive…" > And here’s another quote from another study: > "…women accorded more weight than men to socioeconomic status, ambitiousness, > character, and intelligence, and the largest gender differences were observed > for cues to resource acquisition (status, ambitiousness). Also as predicted, > gender differences were not found in preferences for characteristics unrelated > to progeny survival (sense of humor, "personality")…"

So are you saying that guys like "summers" need to get out of their mommy’s house and get a job? Catfish

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mitzneg…@aol.com (mitznegari thinks it has wings) wrote in news:da51cdbb.0409022013.2ebbb38f@posting.google.com: > Lash Rambo <lra…@obmarl.com> wrote in message > <news:Xns9557A20DC8350lramboobmarlcom@68.12.19.6>… >> fra…@grex.org (franco) wrote in news:2pmkd9Fmfu02U1@uni-berlin.de: >> > A lot of guys turn into clowns to ingratiate themselves to a woman, >> > thinking that making her laugh is a sure way to win her romantic >> > affection. >> It was for me, for the kind of woman I was after. > "ghetto fabulous"?

Yo, I gotta repree-ZENT! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> – m i t z –

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capt.band…@sbcglobal.net (Bandaid) in news:b600c821.0409030611.505aa682 @posting.google.com: > It sounds like you’re saying you should go for wit, not a comedy > routine.

since you’re not being paid!  :> > If that’s what you’re saying, I agree with you.

– If Tolkien didn’t want us to eat Hobbits, why did he make them of meat?

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>Many clones – same message. >Catfish

 Crapfish says, "Yummy cellulite is finger-licking good!!!!"

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>Who wants to end up a 38 year old virgin who lives with his mother? >That’s what you got! >Catfish

  How many fat whores have you fucked? 50? 100?? I turned down fat pussy just last week. I have standards, buddy………ANYONE can fuck fat chicks…ANYONE……you aren’t impressing anybody……

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>Maybe you’re just not funny?

  Why don’t you try this approach recommended by Speed Seduction?    Act like a FAG!!!    I’ll tell ya,  I’ve been noticing something and putting it into much practice these days.  It has taken me to some differant realms.  About 6 months ago I read an article in playboy by a guy who spent alot of his time acting gay and nailing some of the most elite models and actresses in NYC.  He went pretty much through his life story and how he fit in with the gays and lived in the gay community and banged chicks left and right.  Woman who hung with this crowd (Gay fashion designers, hairstylists… ect..) never suspected he wasn’t gay and would hang around him because they felt he was safe.  Also he was into hairstyling, art, fashion, make up… ect… ect…  He could talk for hours with woman about clothes, make up… ect…  I thought; ok this is cool stuff.  He did over 2,000 lays living this lifestyle. Anyway…. I get to run around with who I consider the most successful player in my area.  He’s fucking outragiously successful at getting about any kind of sexual deal going at any time.  The thing is, his voice is so effemate I can’t believe it.  He talks like a girl.  He dont look like one.  In fact he’s very macho looking but still… He’s like talking to a chick and he sounds like a girl.  Even when talks to me he sounds like a girl. I almost thought he was gay.  He’d talk about his relationships, girlfriends, clothes… ect…  just like a chick.  It made me sick because on the outside he looks manly enough but his tonality is so differant from his looks. Next I get Rick H’s Masters and methods CDs.  His voice is very feminine as well and he just talks, talks, talks… like a girl on and on… This guy has banged over a 1,000 chicks and is famous for landing a 5-some.  Still you listen to him talk and he gets excited about his sarges like a school girl!  Rosses voice too would go into the girl talk mode at times. Also on the BHSC brother orion who is outragiously successful uses very effemate tonality.  Sometimes he almost sounds like a girl talking girl talk to his girlfriend but the differance is he uses seductive patterning and it’s obvious he is being seductive.  What is seductive about his tonality is it has the gentleness of a woman.  He uses very feminine and very gentle soft tonality.  It’s amasing and hard to describe but woman eat it up!!  I will admit though major Mark and for the most part Ross use pretty deep male tonality though I often hear Ross laspe into almost girlish tonality at times.  but I’ll bet they all can hold thier own being just one of the girls. Here’s another point.  Most woman’s attitude about picking up chicks is this:  If you ask a girl how to pick up a chick most of them will tell you it’s the easiest thing to do.  For example:  My girlfriend picks up chicks and has NO problem doing so.  It’s so easy it fucking kills me! She sits with the chick, does light kino, has a girl talk, gets sexual, off they go to bed with me tagging along.  IT’s so damn easy for her. She asks me why do I have to work at it so hard.  She seriously can’t understand why I read ASF or am learning SS.  If you watch her – it really is so easy.  That’s her perspective.  I’ve watched other woman. It’s the same thing.  She can talk to girls freely and naturally.  She knows all the nuances, all the phrases and has talked about sex with woman since she was a teenager.  She knows how to talk about clothes, hair, relationshps all in the correct manner and timing.  She even knows the right small talk.  The thing is when she wants to bed a woman she usually is into the stage of setting up the lay within 15 minutes.  IT’s damn fast and damn easy for her. Also woman on this newsgroup often give advice.  They think their advise is solid gold.  In fact the mind set is they KNOW it is solid gold.  Oh yes it would be solid gold for a woman trying to pick up another woman. Piss poor advice for guys who don’t know all the nuances of female to female interaction.  You woman on here who advise don’t realise the enormous gendervantage you hold.  Yes if an AFC could step inside your skin he would indeed have EASY success but most of us big dumb guys we have a learning curve to over come being so WAY differant from woman in not only apperance but also in, tonality, values, cultural programming ect…  Often the advise would be better understood if you woman would just tell us guys to:  Be a woman! so…. Here’s the practical application and what I think. All this stuff has added up and I must say the last three months my sarge stradegy is changing drastically.  I frequently – ACT GAY, ACT EFFEMATE,  talk about clothes, make up, boys and be one of the girls.  I practice these skills and woman keep coming back for more.  I have not experianced this much popularity with woman before.  I have in the past always been like a shark swimming around and devouring some unsupecting duck.  Now I am trying to relate to woman on a whole differant level. I’m making this type of behavior around woman more natural.  It is powerful, it works and I what I love most is I’m not doing the old games that I used to use on woman that left them feeling dirty, degraded and used.  It works!  I can get with girls and just talk and relate about female interests.  Sometimes they make me a trusted male confident.  I mean they don’t ignore I’m a male but they over look it because I’m cool. I’m curious to what mysteries mode of talking is,  I know NYC gets in on "chick talk" and I love how he has shared about it.  Any you guys out there in on the chick talk? Honestly myself I would say I’ve always been able to talk to chicks and do the chick talk thing.  I do have a fairly effenate voice at times and often am like a camelian with woman or with ethinic groups mirroring inflection and posture.  Still I have never went as far as I have the last couple months.  I am purposely going out and being either GAY or FEMINIE.  I’ve said too any times lately to chicks;  "Do you think my boobies are going flat?" "Oh honey what do you use on your skin?  You look so lovely."…. ect…." GREG just ONE of the girls — Seduction is so simple and yet we make it so complicated.

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>It was for me, for the kind of woman I was after.

  Yes, a woman who was uglier than you. Franco is right, humor means nothing on it’s own unless the guy is also wealthy and attractive.

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jimsummer…@aol.com (Jim Summers87) wrote in news:20040901233938.18867.00000014@mb-m01.aol.com: >>It was for me, for the kind of woman I was after. >   Yes, a woman who was uglier than you. Franco is right, humor means >   nothing on > it’s own unless the guy is also wealthy and attractive.

Maybe you’re just not funny?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -fra…@grex.org (franco) wrote in message <news:2pmkd9Fmfu02U1@uni-berlin.de>… > A lot of guys turn into clowns to ingratiate themselves to a woman, thinking > that making her laugh is a sure way to win her romantic affection. However, is > humor really a good tool? Below is a quote from a study: > "…individuals, particularly men, expressing humor were rated as more > desirable than nonhumorous individuals for a serious relationship and marriage, > but only when these individuals were physically attractive…" > And here’s another quote from another study: > "…women accorded more weight than men to socioeconomic status, ambitiousness, > character, and intelligence, and the largest gender differences were observed > for cues to resource acquisition (status, ambitiousness). Also as predicted, > gender differences were not found in preferences for characteristics unrelated > to progeny survival (sense of humor, "personality")…"

Cite, please?

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fra…@grex.org (franco) wrote in news:2pmkd9Fmfu02U1@uni-berlin.de: > A lot of guys turn into clowns to ingratiate themselves to a woman, > thinking that making her laugh is a sure way to win her romantic > affection.

It was for me, for the kind of woman I was after. > However, is humor really a good tool? Below is a quote from > a study: > "…individuals, particularly men, expressing humor were rated as more > desirable than nonhumorous individuals for a serious relationship and > marriage, but only when these individuals were physically > attractive…"

…to those women.  It’s not some constant across all woman, or even a particular woman. > And here’s another quote from another study: > "…women accorded more weight than men to socioeconomic status, > ambitiousness, character, and intelligence, and the largest gender > differences were observed for cues to resource acquisition (status, > ambitiousness). Also as predicted, gender differences were not found > in preferences for characteristics unrelated to progeny survival > (sense of humor, "personality")…"

That’s really vague.  I hope that’s a quote from the abstract or the conclusion!

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A lot of guys turn into clowns to ingratiate themselves to a woman, thinking that making her laugh is a sure way to win her romantic affection. However, is humor really a good tool? Below is a quote from a study: "…individuals, particularly men, expressing humor were rated as more desirable than nonhumorous individuals for a serious relationship and marriage, but only when these individuals were physically attractive…" And here’s another quote from another study: "…women accorded more weight than men to socioeconomic status, ambitiousness, character, and intelligence, and the largest gender differences were observed for cues to resource acquisition (status, ambitiousness). Also as predicted, gender differences were not found in preferences for characteristics unrelated to progeny survival (sense of humor, "personality")…"

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