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Pit Bull in Montgomery County shot
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HOWEDY diddler,
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In Montgomery County Ohio (dayton) A fleeing felon ran into his house and sick’d his Pit Bull on the police officer. The Police officer shot the dog (who survived) It’s illegal in this state to have a Pit Bull. (unless you have a million dollar insurance policy on the dog) so Once impounded, the dog cannot be released, and will be destroyed. The poor dog will be killed once the legal paperwork gets finished. Poor dog is a victim of a stupid owner. You wonder what the owner was thinking. A dog is GOING to be stopped by a bullet. The dog is GOING to die in the hands of Humane agents, by law. All I can do is boggle.. WHY? It’s all so senseless.
Yeah. SENSELESS. The dog was LUCKY compared to those who’ve crossed your path:
I certainly was NOT going to keep him, Nor was I going to throw him away. I was going to go the distance and get him back home (we fixed some other problems while he was here) He’s now a happy and great dog, although I wasn’t so fond of him when he first came, and although we grew close, the whole experience was not among my fondest memories, until the end. I needed to redirect his energies. He used escape for entertainment. Once I gave him very many jobs to do, and taught him LOTS of positive job skills to redirect his energies. Once he found positive alternatives, he finally forgot his negative behaviors which were severely entrenched by the time I got him. The first 6 months were awful for both of us. All the "awful"-ness was caused by diddy. Just as all the awfulness of the blood coming out of Reka’s rectum was caused by diddy and her INSANE need to prevent her dog with "getting away" with anything (such as telling diddy she was deathly ill). Only she led you to believe that she was the hero.
That’s fine. I like to hear all different opinions. Now about that rescues dog doing such, how long was he alone for,to do such destruction?
I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly "Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got home, he had trashed my house. From then on, when I left, he got put in the horse stall. He trashed my horse stall. He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar, I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we were finally able to contain him while we worked on his escape problems. Once he learned that I was more determined to defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to him was a game. Both of us had a throughly miserable time during the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined, and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what it took, before he would stop. Like I said, I thought he and I were going to grow old together. I am not going to go into exactly where we went before we got that accomplished. Let’s just say it was "ugly" You call tying the dog to a wall training, diddler, like HOWE you trained your fence to train your dog?: Whoops, Danny And Taya run away from unsecured yard and imbecile owner. Will they survive life out in the wilderness our amongst the coyote traps? Will they get mistaken for coyotes and sold to the highest bidder at the fur auction? Or will they live again to do a help dummy diddy do a demonstration on safe and responsible pet ownership in the kitchen with the vet’s office kitten? Stay tuned, fans… I realize this has absolutely nothing to do with Disney. Parks, but since those of us on this newsgroup are from all over the country, I thought you would understand this one time intrusion. We are desperate to find these dogs….Please, if you have any information, contact the e-mail address at the bottom of the note. Thank you for your Karyl Parks’ dog Danny – Ch. Alpha’s Decorum (I think that is his correct registered name) is missing . For those that have never met Danny – he is very special. Both trained for Search and Rescue You’d think the dog could find his own way back to his HOWES??? as well as service dog trained, CDX, etc. He does all the things that service dogs do from opening doors, turning on lights, getting clothes and shoes. He is a marvel. He is nine years old but does not show his age – he is about 60 pounds 22 1/2 inches, dark face. By tomorrow I will have a picture available. Monday night he was put out to do his business along with Taya another elkie. At 10:00pm – both he and Taya were gone from Karyl’s yard. She heard nothing and the gate was open but opened inward. Danny was neutered in the last year so is not of any use to anyone for breeding. Karyl has handed out over 1,200 flyers today – gone to the schools where Danny was well known – he did demonstrations, talked to neighbors and combed the neighborhood. She lives in farm country outside Greenville, Ohio. Danny is a tall elkie – very handsome – microchipped. I am looking for a picture I took when he visited here two years ago. He was not wearing a collar when lost. Karyl will talk to postal workers, garbage truck drivers, county road crews, meter readers, tomorrow – has already contacted law enforcement and shelters. Please for anyone in the area or who can cross post this to other lists do it. This dog is Karyl’s life and she can not imagine life without him. Taya – also an elkhound her parents dog – spayed female five years old. Small size – I think only about 18 inches. They could be together or separate - Taya did have a collar on. Do not know if she is microchipped. Thank you for your understanding……we’re posting this to every list we are involved with and pray for their safe return. Kathy
"I admit our system fails occassionally" We have a beagle. Before we got our last one, we knew what to expect and spent a year re-enforcing the fence. "I admit our system fails occassionally" What we did. "I admit our system fails occassionally" Double fencing, hardware cloth lined on the inside. Wood ties under gates. A chicken wire apron extending out into the yard 12 inches. (hog ringed to the upright fencing). We chose chicken wire because it was flexible and ground conforming. grass grows right over it, making it invisible and easy to mow over. It’s tacked down by tent stakes every 10 inches. (this is our most considerable investment) "I admit our system fails occassionally" The problems with it is that it eventually disintegrates, rusts, pulls apart and need repair a lot. We placed tile blocks over the top, because the tent stakes stick up, and sometimes get hit by the lawnmower. "I admit our system fails occassionally" Overall, it’s a pretty decent system and works MOST of the time. "I admit our system fails occassionally" The beagle is persistent, and tends to work the inner fencing, that’s flimsy down, or tear it, making exit holes. We recently cut down a couple yard trees that broke down sections of the fence and they need re-enforcement. "I admit our system fails occassionally" When the weather breaks, a whole new fence is in order, but the system works MOST of the time. "I admit our system fails occassionally" We did install an underground perimeter E-fence at the fence line, and found a single strand 12 inch high electric cattle fence around the perimeter was just as effective, cheaper, less bothersome (no need to wear heavy e-collars.. especially that mess up coats), but both needed occassional maintenence. "I admit our system fails occassionally" What we did. "I admit our system fails occassionally" I admit our system fails occassionally, especially when snow drifts are over the top of the fences and erase any identifiable fenceline. "I admit our system fails occassionally" We installed (BEFORE getting the beagle) a 100 foot trolly line that crosses the yard. "I admit our system fails occassionally" This is a safe, effective restraint system that has always worked when immediate repairs or extra security is desired. If I go away and leave the beagle outside. He goes to the trolly line, whether the containment system is currently working or not. "I admit our system fails occassionally" It’s great for emergency situations, and the $17 last resort system gets used for the beagle far more than I ever expected. It still allows reasonable exercise range of area and mobility. The elkhounds and the beagle still play avidly, and it’s the cheapest piece of mind security ever. "I admit our system fails occassionally" A trolly tether system is the best for temporary containment while discovering where the leak is. In the snow, it’s easy to discover the
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HOWEDY diddler,
Agreed. Even sadder (and more worrisome) is that they shot the dog THREE times..
HOWE many times do you shoot a dog or kat you can’t bludgeon to death or strangle noose or leg hold trap, diddler? and the dog survived.
Tough break, eh diddler. Makes you wonder about the officers shooting skills
Yeah. That was The Amazing Puppy Wizard’s first thoughts. What if it was a man an they couldn’t shoot him to death as necessary. and whether they are using large enough caliber and charges, or using the wrong kind of bullets.
Could be they was usin human bullets. Yes, they should have shot the felon,
They shoulda not let him set his dog on them. Perhaps they thought the papers they was carryin would protect them from harm while collaring a dangerHOWES felon. but if they can shoot a little dog three times and not kill it,
You don’t have that problem. he was probably afraid the felon might punch him back.
He could get in trHOWEble for that. Hittin people ain’t NICE. Here’s diddler at her best: WHEN YOU CAN’T FIND ANY CATS TO SHOOT, SHOOT HUNGRY DOGS INSTEAD FOR GETTING IN THE GARBAGE I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it’s the way I would react. There would be none left standing to deal with the threat just in case. If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or continents stop me from pursuing justice. Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If someone is feeding his dog outside, his own dog might not mean THAT much to him. If he was feeding his dog outside though, many dogs are food aggressive, and that could most certainly spark a dog aggression thing. (and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what was it doing in his yard?) I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my horses and called him to help me find it. I would do the same for threatening my dog. My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up trash up and down our road for years making an unbelievable mess. When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road cheered. Animal control had never been able in years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it was certainly unkempt enough to have been…. and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors, but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from NOT tearing up the road the next trash day) Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm. I let her out. It’s coyote breeding season, and she is fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out. After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked securely in a horse stall for the night. She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN. At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior. So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace, and send a message that her obnoxious behavior was not going to be tolerated. This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited (normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate (not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn’t sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary confinement.) I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of blood on the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub. That blood didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle, I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle.. and corresponding coyote breeding season. Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story. She had blood (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh. I had her at the vets office this morning before he opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched up with huge air pockets. Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather because she was chewing it. That would explain EVERYTHING. The strings are binding and bunching up her intestines, cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as it works its way through. Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant afford. I will manage. Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a clue that she was sick. I feel so badly. — diddy Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a couple days for school education on pet care and safe handling as well as responsible pet ownership. I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate and yet my dog (yes, Angelic Danny, as well as Taya and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and parts being torn through by ALL the dogs. I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done something so unspeakable that I wouldn’t associate with them and they got banished. To this day, Taya (mom and Dad’s dog) and Danny will not look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees himself and cowers hiding behind me for help. I’m not saying this would work this way with all dogs, But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has never been harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there all the time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.
You know I’m a cat abuser because I let my cat out. Alison Well, it totally depends upon where you live, as to whether or not doing so is in the best interest of your animal. Abuser isn’t a term I would use, and I am a "cat group" regular. Here it would be abuse. If you like your cat you keep it home. I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance animal trapline. This morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily, an animal caught in a snare can be released unharmed. One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats) Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals, to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they can’t become lunch.. whatever. Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped, and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it’s intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the spine) around the waist area. This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this cat was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I imagined this cat was not likely to survive. It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure. (no id on the collar) . It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn’t be taken to the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this particular cat survives the experience or not. People in the area were aware that trapping was being done and apparently still let their cats run free, b oth endangered by the traps and by the coyotes being targeted that are causing a problem with their cat population. Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tried to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been a kindness, but then… cats weren’t supposed to be attracted to this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren’t supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation. If you like your pet, you keep them home.
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