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: Any responses? The fundamentalists taking such a stand shows how far they have drifted from the mainstream of western culture. While this is good in the sense that it will loose them support, it’s bad in the sense that it makes for a more divided culture, with less understanding and less common ground. loam – — —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: PGP Signed with TinSign 1.1 iQCVAwUBMgRwLpIYvg5v+221AQGdOgQArLsptre8IS26T3UhFQfPEhBIj+eW4e1V cB0uXumD8ZBT+zEDpxer2bT3qrah6RI/PChDDaBl8mZMkkIPvNKgsfVF4KKUfEVg B/bdca9qBFWGzkPjbELgDxvK8myKu1O90lXXDvONtxSplWRouL6feDajbLhMCjGk o0uYxLFEkso= =keA8 —–END PGP SIGNATURE—– –“Perhaps one of the more important magical tools you will need to obtain in your initial pursuit of magical secrets is a Library Card. You may already have one of these powerful devices. If not, proceed to your local public library and perform their appropriate ritual.”                                                              unknown

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ROPER) writes: Anne Rice can write about witches and vampires all she wants. But throwing a public party in honor of her latest book was too much for some neighbors.    "We won’t let witchcraft and Satan into our community," said Everrett Aaron, who was among the 20 or so fundamentalist church members who demostrated outside the party at Books-A-Million in Monroe, LA.    "Severant of the Bones," the latest from the author of "Interview with the Vampire," tells about a Hebrew spirit named Azriel and his centeries long existance.    "The staff is all dressed up in black. That’s just one sign of the darkness they are promoting. We came out to show these folks the light," Aaron said.    Angie Summers, who planned Wednesday’s party- which Rice didn’t attend- said it," was an opportunity to get the community involved in something different. There was no alcohol or anything bad…just cake, costumes and door prizes." End of article Any responses? Catherine

Lot’s of em actually, but to illustrate tha point.  Before I began searching outside of Christianity for my spirituality, I attended a church that I thought at first was super… I was impressed at first by all the support groups etc… that they offered.  They even had one for single mom’s – both those who whose children were concieved in and out of wedlock.  The two last things I did at that church before I stopped going there (and the reasons I DID stop going there) were: 1. Picked up a membership packet and took it home and read it. 2. Attended a meeting of this single mother’s support group. The membership packet included a paper which stated "Christs and the churches" position on a number of topics including abortion, the media and entertainment (among other things).  You had to sign this thing stating you agreed in full with the stance taken and would be willing to boycotte movies, books, business establishments not acting in accordance with Christs will for his children.  You had to be willing to physically block the entrance to abortion clininc and be arrested for it. (mother’s of small children exempted as a child needs it’s mother).  Fathers strongly advised to take back the leadership position of the family, mom’s not supposed to work, the whole she’bang.  I couldn’t believe it. The single mom’s group was essentially a study group to teach us how to no longer live a sinful life, since it was a result of our sin that we were in the position we were in.  Divorced women sinned somehow… otherwise our husbands would not have divorced us.  (I divorced mine – didn’t matter, that was a sin, too.  He was god’s appointed leader of my family) Those single mom’s who hadn’t been married, well we got lots of references to Mary Magdeline and the Whore of Babylon and loose women in general.   I stopped going right then and there.  Thing is, there were about 11 other women there who kneeled and took it.  They were so scared and lonely they felt it better to take that sort of abuse in order to be accepted and belong.  "Jesus, forgive my sinfullness of pride, wonton sexual perversion and disobedience".  Some of these had been battered women, who escaped barely from their marriage and they were being forced to assume responsibility, in order to be accepted by this church. Scariest part – in five years time this church ammassed a membership of over 2000.  More attended who were not yet members.  People are looking for SOMETHING in the way of spirituality and finding legalistic, oppressive and dangerous religions instead.  These people had meetings about how to orgnaize politically so as to get church members on the board of commissioners and school board etc… I for one am scared. Elien   Elien

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(RAVENDNCR) writes: So, are you going to become politically active to retain your rights as an American?  This is a great country–you and I can be politically involved–we can even volunteer to help those organizations we believe in.  Imagine that–we have choices! *B*B CRD

Past tense – BECAME politically involved!  Years ago.  You betcha we have choices and I am gonna do all in my power to ensure that that continues! Bright Blessings Elien

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You don’t think it’s "scary" that the pagan community is the fastest growing non-Christian group in the U.S?  Bet these people do. they are making inroads into the political arena.  So, are you going to become politically active to retain your rights as an American?  This is a great country–you and I can be politically involved–we can even volunteer to help those organizations we believe in.  Imagine that–we have choices! *B*B CRD

I confess to being a little confused here.  I have been following this thread, but due to some posting problems with my news server, I think I missed the first part.  I don’t know which LV Review Journal Story is being referred to. But having said that:  It is most definitely our right, privalege, and obligation as responsible adults to participate as much as we can in the political process which shapes our country.  I believe that we can make a difference without preaching a religion.  That we can support issues compatible with our belief system and oppose those which are not.  Then we can let elected officials (whether we voted for them or not) and those who are seeking office, know what issues we support or oppose and why.   The organized efforts which attract big money are certainly a threat, but so is the general apathy practiced by far too many Americans, and we in the pagan community can promote taking an active part.  And while I have no doubt but there would be a great deal of *discussion* (and I use that word loosely!) as to what we should and should not support, still the fact that we are encouraging action is a positive step.   Don’t have time to get too much more specific at the moment and this is probably not even the right thread to do that in, but I didn’t want to pass up the opportunity in this election year to put in a word for voting and making our voices heard. Peace and Hope, Donna Frances

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<<<The fundamentalists taking such a stand shows how far they have drifted from the mainstream of western culture. While this is good in the sense that it will loose them support, it’s bad in the sense that it makes for a more divided culture, with less understanding and less common ground. PLEASE.  This is "show" biz and a marketing ploy to sell books.   Please don’t make a mountain out of a mole hill.   Direct your energies elsewhere.  <g CRD

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<<<Scariest part – in five years time this church ammassed a membership of over 2000.  More attended who were not yet members.  People are looking for SOMETHING in the way of spirituality and finding legalistic, oppressive and dangerous religions instead.  These people had meetings about how to orgnaize politically so as to get church members on the board of commissioners and school board etc. You don’t think it’s "scary" that the pagan community is the fastest growing non-Christian group in the U.S?  Bet these people do. Politically.  Yes the Religious Right set it’s goal of placing "politically correct" members on school boards, in local governments, etc.  just about 4 years ago when they "lost" the presidential election.  Yes, they are making inroads into the political arena.  So, are you going to become politically active to retain your rights as an American?  This is a great country–you and I can be politically involved–we can even volunteer to help those organizations we believe in.  Imagine that–we have choices! *B*B CRD

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I found this short stricle in this mornings copy of the Las Vegas Review Journal, I am rewritting it without permission. PARTY TO HONOR RICE ANGERS NEIGHBORS Anne Rice can write about witches and vampires all she wants. But throwing a public party in honor of her latest book was too much for some neighbors.         "We won’t let witchcraft and Satan into our community," said Everrett Aaron, who was among the 20 or so fundamentalist church members who demostrated outside the party at Books-A-Million in Monroe, LA.         "Severant of the Bones," the latest from the author of "Interview with the Vampire," tells about a Hebrew spirit named Azriel and his centeries long existance.         "The staff is all dressed up in black. That’s just one sign of the darkness they are promoting. We came out to show these folks the light," Aaron said.         Angie Summers, who planned Wednesday’s party- which Rice didn’t attend- said it," was an opportunity to get the community involved in something different. There was no alcohol or anything bad…just cake, costumes and door prizes." End of article Any responses? Catherine

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