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It will take more than the FTAC and actors/stunt performers and US Filmmakers giving $$$ to stop this from happening. It will take an email campaign to the local NYC press and news agencies… Try emails to NY Times NY Post NY Daily News The Village Voice http://www.villagevoice.com/aboutus/contact.php — You can contact the Deputy Mayors, Chief of Staff, Senior Advisor, Communications and Press Officers, and other Senior staff at: City Hall New York, NY 10007 Telephone: (212) 788-9600 FAX: (212) 788-2460 ——- Not to mention that we in NYC are having the Fall Membership Meeting, Monday, November 4, 2002, 5:30 to 8:30PM at the Directors Guild of America, 110 West 57th Street, (Between 6th & 7th Avenues). Time to show up and rattle the cages. Signed, Riley G Matthews Jr Actor – Stuntman (SAG) www.PoliceActors.com "Rudy" To Be Filmed In Canada Oct 28, 9:20 PM (ET) By AMY WESTFELDT NEW YORK (AP) – Filmmakers are going to Canada to make a movie about former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, angering industry officials who say the film belongs in Giuliani’s hometown. "Rudy!" – based on an unauthorized biography of the man known as America’s mayor – is set to begin filming Nov. 7 in Montreal. James Woods stars as the Brooklyn-born former mayor and Penelope Ann Miller plays ex-wife Donna Hanover in the film, which intersperses flashbacks from Giuliani’s childhood and political career with his performance on Sept. 11, 2001. Carlton America is producing the film for the USA Networks cable channel, which has scheduled a release for next year. Like the book "Rudy!" it was made without Giuliani’s cooperation. Giuliani spokeswoman Sunny Mindel declined comment on the film Monday. Spokesmen for Carlton America and USA Networks declined comment on the decision to shoot the movie in Canada. Carlton America spokesman Les Eisner said a few scenes may be shot in New York. The decision means less work for union members and comes at a time when New York’s film industry is struggling, said Pamm Fair, national deputy director of the Screen Actors Guild. "They have very little right now," she said. "Runaway production is a huge problem in this country." The Mayor’s Office of Film, Theater and Broadcasting said business was "average" in New York for the fall season. Films in production now include "Angels in America," an HBO project starring Al Pacino and Meryl Streep, and "Mona Lisa’s Smile," starring Julia Roberts.

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Giuliani Film’s Location Protested By KAREN MATTHEWS, Associated Press Writer NEW YORK (AP) – With a movie about former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani set to start shooting in Montreal on Thursday, a Brooklyn congressman called for tax credits to offset the Canadian film industry’s competitive advantage. "Today, somewhere in Canada, a network called USA Network is making a movie about the mayor of the city of New York," Rep. Anthony Weiner said Wednesday. "I guess they’re going to show him watching baseball games at the SkyDome or eating pommes frites rather than eating at Patsy’s." Members of the Screen Actors Guild and other film industry unions joined Weiner, a Democrat, in front of City Hall to urge federal legislation that would provide producers with a 25 percent tax credit for wages if they film in the United States. "What we have to do is level the playing field between ourselves and these other countries," said former SAG president Richard Masur. Canada offers wage-based incentives that can cover 35 percent of labor expenses. Entertainment industry executives estimate that those credits have cost the United States 25,000 jobs and $10 billion annually for each of the past three years. The two-hour Giuliani movie, "Rudy!," is the latest example of the trend. It’s based on Wayne Barrett’s biography and stars James Woods in the title role. A spokeswoman for USA Network had no comment on the protest. Sunny Mindel, a spokeswoman for Giuliani, also declined comment. Weiner, who is co-sponsoring the U.S. Independent Film and Television Production Incentive Act, said New York’s film industry has been particularly hard hit since Canada implemented tax credits in 1998. He said total gross budgets for feature films in New York state dropped from $695 million in 1999 to $167 million in 2001. California legislators also have discussed ways to offer filmmakers wage-based tax credits for filming in that state.

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Puerto Rico does occasionally attract filmmakers who want to shoot there for its unique locations.  But it would be rather silly, wouldn’t it, to shoot a film like "RUDY" which needs New York look alike locations? Puerto Rico also lacks the crews and production facilities which are readily available in Toronto, Vancouver and other Canadian cities.

It may not have the number of crews but has quite competent crews and state-of-the-art production facilities.  The climate is great and there are great tax breaks.  Maybe you can’t do NYC externals but what is the percentage of exterior shots? Anyway… just my 2-centavos… — There are two thieves:  Pain & Pleasure Neither one is true… http://www.dwacon.com

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Why should I tell you, Riley? You’ve got an interesting…manner, based on what I’ve seen of your interactions here. What is your union name then, Valois? A) Riles, you’re wrong about my union statuses.

Tao te Carl

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Well, I may have had a casting, booking for you… Signed, 6468

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Serious doubts about that, Riles. Well, I may have had a casting, booking for you… Signed, 6468 Why should I tell you, Riley? You’ve got an interesting…manner, based on what I’ve seen of your interactions here.

Tao te Carl

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I’m a camera operator.  I, like everybody else deserve to make a comfortable living.   I’ll never be rich, I just want to be able to raise my family and build up some retirement like everybody else.  I want the right to work on US productions, a right which is currently being taking away by the national government of Canada, who is illegally violating a legal signed agreement.

Hear hear! It astounds me that, in this day and age of Enron and Worldcom and thiscom and thatcom that the protections afforded by unions to their members suddenly make them a target of calumny! Would these people rather the money go to working men and women or to studio executives? Tao te Carl

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A) Riles, you’re wrong about my union statuses. B) Where did you get the idea I support Canadian filming? That I can understand and even argue points of my opponents’ point of view doesn’t mean I agree with him or her. It means I spent some time thinking about it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Devalois, Being that I don’t think you are a SAG member, and only an AFTRA member, I can see why you are not concerned about movies being filmed in the USA… Signed, Riley G Matthews Jr Actor – Stunt Performer (SAG & AFTRA) clean up: It’s kind of pointless to restate the obvious, but the excuse that production costs are higher in New York than Canada doesn’t explain why so many shows and movies are still shot here? In this case, it’s a hedge against the film being a flop that it is filmed in Canada. Ergo, let them have it. Tao te Carl

Tao te Carl

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Puerto Rico is an alternative few people consider… many benefits over Canada… — Creepy Clown Motion Picture http://www.dwacon.com

Puerto Rico does occasionally attract filmmakers who want to shoot there for its unique locations.  But it would be rather silly, wouldn’t it, to shoot a film like "RUDY" which needs New York look alike locations? Puerto Rico also lacks the crews and production facilities which are readily available in Toronto, Vancouver and other Canadian cities. Break a leg, Bill — THE ACTING STUDIO http://gvtg.com/theactingstudio

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Puerto Rico is an alternative few people consider… many benefits over Canada…

hot, muggy, no rental places nearby… ew — -Jon Carroll "You’re making me hungry. You won’t like me when I’m hungry!"- Dexter

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What is so wrong having film production done in another country? Like Canada. It’s smart corporate marketing. I’ve been watching some television shows lately that have been produced in Canada, and boy, aren’t I pleased with the talent that comes out of there. You seen that show Higher Ground, Kaos? What do you think of the camera work that is done in that show? I must say, I haven’t seen a show aimed at a teen-side demographic where the camera has brilliantly constructed each and shot. I am not American or Canadian, but would it really be a problem if it didn’t put the American dominated film industry in such a disadvantage. Would the American film industry care if it was a reverse situation, would they run to the aid of others?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Devalois, Being that I don’t think you are a SAG member, and only an AFTRA member, I can see why you are not concerned about movies being filmed in the USA… Signed, Riley G Matthews Jr Actor – Stunt Performer (SAG & AFTRA) clean up: It’s kind of pointless to restate the obvious, but the excuse that production costs are higher in New York than Canada doesn’t explain why so many shows and movies are still shot here? In this case, it’s a hedge against the film being a flop that it is filmed in Canada. Ergo, let them have it. Tao te Carl

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Devalois, Being that I don’t think you are a SAG member, and only an AFTRA member, I can see why you are not concerned about movies being filmed in the USA… Signed, Riley G Matthews Jr Actor – Stunt Performer (SAG & AFTRA)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – clean up: It’s kind of pointless to restate the obvious, but the excuse that production costs are higher in New York than Canada doesn’t explain why so many shows and movies are still shot here? In this case, it’s a hedge against the film being a flop that it is filmed in Canada. Ergo, let them have it. Tao te Carl

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thanks for stating that clearly. I get so upset when I hear people blame "crew costs" I can’t even think .. I wouldn’t mind so much if they would actually present the facts that would "prove" their point. hodah a local 52 grip —

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Puerto Rico is an alternative few people consider… many benefits over Canada… — Creepy Clown Motion Picture http://www.dwacon.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – thanks for stating that clearly. I get so upset when I hear people blame "crew costs" I can’t even think .. I wouldn’t mind so much if they would actually present the facts that would "prove" their point. hodah a local 52 grip —

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What is your union name then, Valois?

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This is going on all over th world – New Zealand, Germany, UK , Ireland, and elsewhere, THey all want the big bucks. Most countries offer subsidies to keep local filmmakers in-country, and usually as a cultural protective measure. Look at the animation business – korea producing Simpsons, for  example, for labor-intensive animation at cheaper labor.  But sophisticated laywers and lobbyists work around these systems the ‘disguise’ such productions as local content, which is good for the local economies, but defeats the purpose of subsidies to begin with. First, despite the money made by local crew and services, is takes away from truly indigenous filmmakers who need the break on crew and facilities. As a Canadian producer, try hiring a driver whose ben spoiled by doing Disney films for the last three years.   Really, these ’service producer’ nations become not much more than resources to be plucked, and have no ownership, or at least a disguuised local ownership that reverts back to the majors. Its often a clever abuse of the system, really.  But try to convince a local politico that the billions prodced for local economy is not worth it.  It’s a big money grab. God forbid that when the Canadian ‘peso’ rebounds back to the US equivalent, as it was in the past, we’ll have a fire sale up here.  I hear some states, such as one of the Carolina’s, is trying to offer tax credits to attract production. Hell, its already being done with the autonotive business all over the US and Canada.  Graft is graft. It’s a hard one to fight. The good news is, in places like New York, Indies are truly indies  who have to be resourceful on what they got. The result is some ass kicking films with less compromise because handouts carry a price. Lovingly, A ’51st state’ denizen up North – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It will take more than the FTAC and actors/stunt performers and US Filmmakers giving $$$ to stop this from happening. It will take an email campaign to the local NYC press and news agencies… Try emails to NY Times NY Post NY Daily News The Village Voice http://www.villagevoice.com/aboutus/contact.php — You can contact the Deputy Mayors, Chief of Staff, Senior Advisor, Communications and Press Officers, and other Senior staff at: City Hall New York, NY 10007 Telephone: (212) 788-9600 FAX: (212) 788-2460 ——- Not to mention that we in NYC are having the Fall Membership Meeting, Monday, November 4, 2002, 5:30 to 8:30PM at the Directors Guild of America, 110 West 57th Street, (Between 6th & 7th Avenues). Time to show up and rattle the cages. Signed, Riley G Matthews Jr Actor – Stuntman (SAG) www.PoliceActors.com "Rudy" To Be Filmed In Canada Oct 28, 9:20 PM (ET) By AMY WESTFELDT NEW YORK (AP) – Filmmakers are going to Canada to make a movie about former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, angering industry officials who say the film belongs in Giuliani’s hometown. "Rudy!" – based on an unauthorized biography of the man known as America’s mayor – is set to begin filming Nov. 7 in Montreal. James Woods stars as the Brooklyn-born former mayor and Penelope Ann Miller plays ex-wife Donna Hanover in the film, which intersperses flashbacks from Giuliani’s childhood and political career with his performance on Sept. 11, 2001. Carlton America is producing the film for the USA Networks cable channel, which has scheduled a release for next year. Like the book "Rudy!" it was made without Giuliani’s cooperation. Giuliani spokeswoman Sunny Mindel declined comment on the film Monday. Spokesmen for Carlton America and USA Networks declined comment on the decision to shoot the movie in Canada. Carlton America spokesman Les Eisner said a few scenes may be shot in New York. The decision means less work for union members and comes at a time when New York’s film industry is struggling, said Pamm Fair, national deputy director of the Screen Actors Guild. "They have very little right now," she said. "Runaway production is a huge problem in this country." The Mayor’s Office of Film, Theater and Broadcasting said business was "average" in New York for the fall season. Films in production now include "Angels in America," an HBO project starring Al Pacino and Meryl Streep, and "Mona Lisa’s Smile," starring Julia Roberts.

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Let’s support this folks…. it’s important to ALL of us Americans. Especially the New York film community. thanks Riley G. hodah

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Why are movies filmed in Canada?  Because it costs less.  For films with mid-size budgets, this may be the best use of their dollars.

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Sure it saves $… but Canada claims "Canadian Content" in the projects… a Canada?

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Sure it saves $… but Canada claims "Canadian Content" in the projects… a Canada?

Techinically it’s about Rudy, but I understand.  Even as a Canadian film maker, I was surprised that this was going to shoot in Montreal, and not NYC.

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It will take more than the FTAC and actors/stunt performers and US Filmmakers giving $$$ to stop this from happening. It will take an email campaign to the local NYC press and news agencies…

Production costs for NYC are too high! Blame the overpaid union workers there. If you want the flim done there, start a charity and riase the $$$$

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I’m on my way out the door, so I can’t respond in the depth I’d like. Where do you get "overpaid union workers" from? I’d love for you to show me how WE are the reason for high production costs. I’m making less now than I was seven years ago, I bet the "stars" of the movies can’t claim that. Labor costs are rarely the highest cost on a film project. Please back up your statement with some facts. I am a proud member of Local 52. I am a grip and have been for 15 years. The last seven as a union member. — Check out my web site:  www.hodah.net

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It will take more than the FTAC and actors/stunt performers and US Filmmakers giving $$$ to stop this from happening. It will take an email campaign to the local NYC press and news agencies…

It’s kind of pointless to restate the obvious, but the excuse that production costs are higher in New York than Canada doesn’t explain why so many shows and movies are still shot here? In this case, it’s a hedge against the film being a flop that it is filmed in Canada. Ergo, let them have it. Tao te Carl

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It costs so much less because of subsidies which are paid to producers which is contrary to, and illegal under NAFTA. The subsidies are contingent on the productions not using US crews.   Many of my brothers here in LA and elsewhere cannot make a living because the jobs are being stolen by illegal Canadian subsidies. Support the FTAC  www.ftac.org The FTC is compelled to level countervailing tariffs against any film produced in Canada which are paid these subsidies.  It’s the law that Canada agreed to, they were given benefits under NAFTA and it’s not right that they ignore their agreement, to the detriment of US workers. Filmmakers have the right to make their films wherever they want, but not because they’re being paid off to do it.  It’s wrong for a soverign government to steal jobs away from a US state. — Warren Yeager, SOC www.warrenyeager.com

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Christ. Blame the overpaid union workers.   What BS.   With actors making millions, and producers making millions, how can you say crew members making a decent wage are the problem.   The wages paid to the people hurt by illegal tariffs are such a small percentage of a film’s budget, that it renders blaming the workers laughable. Do the math, somebody, and tell me how what percentage of a film budget is represented by crew wages. I’m a camera operator.  I, like everybody else deserve to make a comfortable living.   I’ll never be rich, I just want to be able to raise my family and build up some retirement like everybody else.  I want the right to work on US productions, a right which is currently being taking away by the national government of Canada, who is illegally violating a legal signed agreement. www.ftac.org Join this organization.  Participate in this organization.  Support this organization financially. — Warren Yeager, SOC www.warrenyeager.com

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