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Outjia Boards (and perhaps with Magick)
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Dear Churchill and Hancock, Please tell me your story regarding your experience with the Ouija board. Thank you,Joanne Collins NZ.
Response:
Using the Ouija Board can be a bit like telemarketing or making crank phone calls. You don’t really know who or what you’ll contact and how the contacted entity may react. B*B Jorinx
I used a Ouiga board many years ago, and when the Ouiga spelled out, "Up Yours" decided to never again use it. I had my eyes closed, and to make sure we werent doing this ourselves, I had a word in my mind. I asked one of the Spirits to spell it out. Since one of these Spirits was a little 14 year old French Girl, she spelled it incorrectly, but she did spell it. And our eyes were closed, while someone stood by spelling out what the board said. The word was arcade, and "Jo Hanna" the Spirit (yes she gave her name) spelled it arkade. I never used it again after that. She predicted I would be hit from behind in a car. That night I was driving home from Long Island, to Brooklyn, on the LIE I495, and a car came from behind me, in bumper to bumper traffic, hit 30 cars getting to my car, totalled out most of the other cars, and hit my car which spun off the road into a ditch. When they finally caught up to the car which caused dozens of accidents, the guy was in another ditch, foot to the pedal, with no signs of drugs or alcohol in his body. There was never an explanation why he hit all the cars, but he stopped when he reached my car, from behind. Never again! RainOne
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At some rare times, what happens is that that person’s unconscious mind takes control of the planchette in order to be given voice. Unfortunately, most of us have a lot of disgusting stuff buried in our unconscious minds–hatred, bigotry, fear, etc. These are things we repress for our own mental health. When these things are given voice, the result can be terrifying. Kiwi Carlisle
Any disgusting stuff we have in our minds is not in our subconscious mind, it is right here in the consicous mind. If we would only seek to go deeply into our subconscious mind, the world would not have such accusations. I disagree with your hypothesis on the sub mind. The True Spirit is somewhere between both minds, and that True Spirit has no thoughts of any sort which you describe, nor does it fester said thoughts of hatred, bigotry or fear. That is all located right in the conscious mind…be it the awake or sleeping conscious. RainOne
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: Yeah??? Well, I used a Ouija, and even though I don’t believe in them, it : said I am supposed to die May 27, 1998…anyone believe that?? It really : freajed out my best friend and since then, we’ve decided not to use the : Ouija board, unles we’re really really bored, and we usually just fool : around with it and just pretend, because we’re scared of the thing really : moving because of what it told me that one time… Well, the old saying about "dead men tell no tales" is a myth. You were duped. You have a troublemaker telling you things you dont want to hear. damfino
Yeah, some girls told a friend of mine the other day that the Ouija told them to kill her. Of course, the spirit on the board claimed to be Satan, and when that happens, I know it’s someone just playin’ around. — The Vacuum Lady Mr. Rogers likes me just the way I am! "One word! Years of studying and I understood ONE WORD!" –"Men Behaving Badly"
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I’ve got a story about Oujia’s, this is before I was Wiccan. I used to talk to a boy, named Tom, (actually a teenager, he’s 17) by Ouija and automatic writing. (w/o Ouija) I have around 170 pages of dialog, I’ve kept. He was, um, one of my best friends. To be true. I told a few people about this, people who would understand-and they did, these people being dear friends. For this whole period of time I communicated with Tom, I could feel him watching me, like he said he did. One night, at my friend Carmen’s house, we were talking to Tom, and he said he was going to prove his existence, and touch me. He did. Her and I sat in her living room, we had one light on, and her mother was asleep, leaving her and I the only ones awake in the house. He told me I’d feel a tingly sensation. I did. I felt this, numbness, soft numbess on my thigh, knee, then neck. Then it was over, in about 10 seconds it lasted. The lamp flashed twice, on off, on off, and I burst into tears, joyous ones really. It was my first experience with spirits. I believed what happened. No denying that. I’ve always been able to feel spirits around me. I’ve been to haunted houses, I’ve felt the spirits. And as I said above, I have a slight talent for automatic writing as well. (allowing the spirit to write through you) I’ve also seen possessions. I’ve possessed one of my friends-just to see if I could-with the spirit of a black slave from Alabama named Jeri. She freaked. But that’s another story right? Right. Sorry for babbling. Think what you want. Alexandra-the only 16 year old Wiccan on the web, who isn’t a HP
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so? Just wondering…. — The Vacuum Lady Mr. Rogers likes me just the way I am! Two strikes on spelling; let’s avoid a third. It is spelled "ouija," from the French and German words for "yes" ("oui" and "ja," respectively). Could’ve just been a rather collossal typo of mammoth proportions, you know. Don’t put her down for something so trivial… However…I have only one standard piece of advice for people who want to use Ouija boards for ANY reason… DON’T!!! Take it from me, it might work just great for some people but if *anything* goes bad, it can get *really* bad. My hubby and I used a Ouija board over three years ago…we are STILL feeling the repercussions of the action and it nearly destroyed both of us. I know it sounds dramatic, but if you’re interested in knowing what happened write me. I don’t want other people going through what we are still going through… Gwynne ni Brid Witch who uses Ouija boards as scratching posts
A scratching post sound like the only reasonable use for those things Gwynne. My Grandmother banned them from the house, (they have been round in one form or another for a long long time) me being young curiouse, and naturally a rebel had to try . So I did with a group of young Craft friends, it was a total Nightmare, and I had to confess to Gran, several of the group were still having nightmares about it. She sorted it out but boy did I get the telling off of my young life. and I deserved it. — The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/
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: However…I have only one standard piece of advice for people who want : to use Ouija boards for ANY reason… : DON’T!!!
And thereby hangs the ghost story… To add to this great post – please see previous post for entire message from CHurchill/Hancock – ouija attracts lowlevel, negative energy entities. You don’t want to fool with that.
You know, that’s a colorful but not always unwarranted description. "Attracts lowlevel, negative energy entities". You mediums, channellers, and other spiritists are so dramatic, to say nothing of moralistic, in your means of communicating your experiences. Meddling with the assumptions about what is real and what is imaginary is always going to have somewhat scary effects. That’s the reason people play with ouija boards in the first place. They want to scare themselves (just a bit) by visiting an invisible world that just might be real. Usually they do just that. They give themselves the willies and then they put the silly thing away as more interesting pastimes attract their attention. But once in a while, crossing that boundary between objective and subjective gains a certain attraction and, providing that the interest is intense enough, one may either have to learn to swim or be drowned. The looser your hold on reality-testing, the more likely the ouija board is to stimulate some uncontrolled eruptions of things from the imagination which can seem to be as real as physical objects. They will probably not be very likable things, as the mind that is creating them is untrained and acting somewhat randomly. They will almost certainly be described as "low-level" and "negative", from a socialized morality viewpoint. The only quibble I’d have is that I would say they weren’t so much "attracted" as "assembled". However, those legendary tales of encountering monstrous entities from beyond the pale are not what most people will experience when they fool around with Parker Bros. most misunderstood game. There are ways to use this form of divination by following some alleged safety procedures – but nothing is guaranteed.
Of course, nothing ever is. But the risk is extremely slight that anyone will do more than come away with one of their scariest stories. Mostly, people will only toy with it and sneer. Ouija can be a doorway into the magical world; many such opportunities exist, but this one is well-guarded by its superficiality and the aura of silliness that clings to it.
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Using the Ouija Board can be a bit like telemarketing or making crank phone calls. You don’t really know who or what you’ll contact and how the contacted entity may react. B*B Jorinx I used a Ouiga board many years ago, and when the Ouiga spelled out, "Up Yours" decided to never again use it.
I use the same line with telemarketers. However, they keep calling back. Perhaps I should tell them I am Satan and that I will feast their on their souls. D’ya think THAT will stop ‘em? –just kidding B*B Jorinx
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two strikes on spelling; let’s avoid a third. It is spelled "ouija," from the French and German words for "yes" ("oui" and "ja," respectively). BTW, the correct pronunciation is just like you were saying those two words together, "WEE ja." It is not weejee or any of the other mispronunciations I’ve heard over the years. Sorry, I was typing fast and screwed up the spelling. But I know how to pronounce it, thanks. — The Vacuum Lady Mr. Rogers likes me just the way I am!
It’s ok V.Lady, don’t bother with those who go ape-crap over the stupidest of things. Everyone can make a mistake and in any case, who are they to juge you like that? Don’t they ever make any typos???? Draven
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Yeah??? Well, I used a Ouija, and even though I don’t believe in them, it said I am supposed to die May 27, 1998…anyone believe that??
Do you? Does it scare you? If you didn’t believe it, would it seem as scary? It really freajed out my best friend and since then, we’ve decided not to use the Ouija board, unles we’re really really bored, and we usually just fool around with it and just pretend, because we’re scared of the thing really moving because of what it told me that one time…
I’d be much more frightened if it told me something I could verify first and satisfy myself that it was neither a fluke or an illusion of prophecy. A mere bald-faced prediction like that seems pretty tame. Your comment describes the experience of many Ouija board experimenters. You use it, scare yourself, and treat the whole thing as trivial thereafter. And you have a great scary story to tell next time you want to create some shudders. Of course, yours won’t be any good for that after May 27, 1998, unless you really do die just then. And, if you do, you won’t be able to tell the story to anyone. Where’s the fun in that? If I were you, I’d go right back to that scary ol’ board and demand that it scare you with something that gets a little more mileage. I don’t like ghost stories that have an expiration date, so to speak.
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Yeah??? Well, I used a Ouija, and even though I don’t believe in them, it said I am supposed to die May 27, 1998…anyone believe that?? It really freajed out my best friend and since then, we’ve decided not to use the Ouija board, unles we’re really really bored, and we usually just fool around with it and just pretend, because we’re scared of the thing really moving because of what it told me that one time…
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: Yeah??? Well, I used a Ouija, and even though I don’t believe in them, it : said I am supposed to die May 27, 1998…anyone believe that?? It really : freajed out my best friend and since then, we’ve decided not to use the : Ouija board, unles we’re really really bored, and we usually just fool : around with it and just pretend, because we’re scared of the thing really : moving because of what it told me that one time… Well, the old saying about "dead men tell no tales" is a myth. You were duped. You have a troublemaker telling you things you dont want to hear. damfino http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2047 <– Black Blade cybercomic Pt.1 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ODD <– Black Blade Pt.4 http://www.octet.com/~odd/IRC/30s_haven.html <– Channel HP & IRC Info Ctr http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/5808 <– The Errol Flynn Homepage
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – However…I have only one standard piece of advice for people who want to use Ouija boards for ANY reason… DON’T!!! Take it from me, it might work just great for some people but if *anything* goes bad, it can get *really* bad. My hubby and I used a Ouija board over three years ago…we are STILL feeling the repercussions of the action and it nearly destroyed both of us. I know it sounds dramatic, but if you’re interested in knowing what happened write me. I don’t want other people going through what we are still going through… Gwynne ni Brid Witch who uses Ouija boards as scratching posts Dear Gwynne, When I was an adolescent I used to solo with a Ouija board and do quite well. When I was in the midst of my "christian" phase, I couldn’t get so much as a rise out of one. I have heard that a Ouija board can open a portal between the two worlds; the trouble with this method is that the portal is completely uncontrollable – anything, anyone can come through, good or bad. I have also heard it is worse to use one alone. What happened to you? Arabella, who has one in her attic somewhere —
My friend Amy tells me that, too, that’s it’s dangerous to use it alone because Satan can get to you more easily. Too bad I don’t believe in Satan! But it DOES mess with my head, and drains me of my energy so I always feel the need to go right to bed and sleep. Amy, however, has some really creepy connections with the board; every time it tells her what will happen (good or bad), it always does!! Once it told her to call her ex-boyfriend because he was suicidal, and to hang up on him (she’s notorious for her little phone pranks) like usual, because he will know it was her and will feel better that she pranked him (shows she was thinking about him I guess). When she called, he was upset when he answered, and his dad’s voice was in the background (whom he never stays up late with to talk to except when he’s upset about something). That’s only one example, it amazing the results she gets! — The Vacuum Lady Mr. Rogers likes me just the way I am! "One word! Years of studying and I understood ONE WORD!" –"Men Behaving Badly"
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GP, you pose some very good points but they’re based on many misconceptions from my posting…
: To add to this great post – please see previous post for entire message : from CHurchill/Hancock – ouija attracts lowlevel, negative energy : entities. You don’t want to fool with that. : You know, that’s a colorful but not always unwarranted description. "Attracts : lowlevel, negative energy entities". You mediums, channellers, and other : spiritists are so dramatic, to say nothing of moralistic, in your means of : communicating your experiences. Everyone has their set of lingo, and I see spirits as bioelectric lifeforms. That’s MY belief and that’s the way they are identified along those lines. : Meddling with the assumptions about what is real and what is imaginary is : always going to have somewhat scary effects. That’s the reason people play : with ouija boards in the first place. They want to scare themselves (just a : bit) by visiting an invisible world that just might be real. Usually they do : just that. They give themselves the willies and then they put the silly thing : away as more interesting pastimes attract their attention. Like Arabella, I have also done ouija on my own – for a while in the early 80s I became very good at it and even set out to make the ultimate board with which a good spirit would "dictate" a book. Of course as you see by my post and advice, things happened. I was not out to "scare myself". I had some very intriguing experiences. But there were other characters trying to muscle in on occasion, certain moon phases affected "reception", combinations of friends would either improve the speed or damper it (no doubt in my mind that subconsciousness and conflicting energies interfered.). Also, when you’re good, you can tell when it’s you and not something out there influencing things. No, these arent from my mind. Best spirit – let’s call him Edd|e – gave me info I had to research at a library to confirm. He sure wasn’t me! But to make a long story short, some things negative happened, my own mind shut out the external entities and I was unable to do Ouija on my own. That same night it happened, Edd|e visited a friend when her and her mum were trying to contact relatives (now THERE’s a traditional use :} ) and explained to them that he couldnt get thru to me and that it was ME blocking him nothing else. I wasnt sure what happened at that very time, only that he wasnt showing up as scheduled and I was getting gibberish on the board. Then I got the phonecall from my friend with Edd|e’s message. Oh well. So much for that book… : But once in a while, crossing that boundary between objective and subjective : gains a certain attraction and, providing that the interest is intense enough, : one may either have to learn to swim or be drowned. The looser your hold on : reality-testing, the more likely the ouija board is to stimulate some : uncontrolled eruptions of things from the imagination which can seem to be as : real as physical objects. They will probably not be very likable things, as : the mind that is creating them is untrained and acting somewhat randomly. : They will almost certainly be described as "low-level" and "negative", from a : socialized morality viewpoint. Well I suppose you had to be there, but generally what you say IS the case. : The only quibble I’d have is that I would say they weren’t so much : "attracted" as "assembled". Well there werent multiple whatever-you-want-to-call-them apparent on the board when I ran into trouble, not to my knowledge anyway. : However, those legendary tales of encountering monstrous entities from beyond : the pale are not what most people will experience when they fool around with : Parker Bros. most misunderstood game. Well yeah hehehe monsters is in the movies. I dont know about portals etc. That’s not what I was told nor what I pursued. And I never owned one of those parker brothers sets. For what? If I felt like it, I’d scribble essential words, alphabet, numbers & facial expressions on the back of a notebook whereever I was, take out a subway token, and voila! My home "board" is still around – a wooden shellacked round slab and a super 8mm cover with one of those large holes in the center. The point is the energy and a focal point. There’s nothing enchanted about anything parker brothers puts on the shelf, I know that :} : There are ways to use this form of divination by following some : alleged safety procedures – but nothing is guaranteed. : Of course, nothing ever is. But the risk is extremely slight that anyone will : do more than come away with one of their scariest stories. Mostly, people : will only toy with it and sneer. Ouija can be a doorway into the magical : world; many such opportunities exist, but this one is well-guarded by its : superficiality and the aura of silliness that clings to it. Very true. I think though the scare aspect would be eliminated if somehow they came up with serious sensing equipment to trace the energies. Until then it is an exotic and spooky party game. For others, well, been there done that. Nuh uh. Not without precautions and NEVER alone. damfino aka CaptBlood/dalnet http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2047 <– Black Blade cybercomic Pt.1 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ODD <– Black Blade Pt.4 http://www.octet.com/~odd/IRC/30s_haven.html <– Channel HP & IRC Info Ctr http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/5808 <– The Errol Flynn Homepage
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so? I personally would use Ouija boards only in a consecrated circle. Now this is MY PERSONAL view, based only on my own experiences. Using the Ouija Board can be a bit like telemarketing or making crank phone calls. You don’t really know who or what you’ll contact and how the contacted entity may react. Come to think of it, It’s very much like posting on a newsgroup about which you don’t know the first thing. The very first message I ever posted, was a response to a really offensive post. I didn’t realize that by responding I accidentally spammed 45 different newsgroups (Lesson: read and edit your headers). You can also spam the astral plane, if you’re not careful. Some personalities don’t take kindly to being spammed. When you spam a spirit, you can get yourself into all sorts of trouble — and the Holy SysOps (a.k.a. Gods) will give you a pretty stiff karmic fine (rule of 3). The point is, I recommend that using the Ouija Board should be done in a consecrated circle, with a specific purpose in mind that will benefit both the contacted entity and the practitioner. Make sure you follow the rules of common courtesy and that there exists an atmosphere of mutual respect. My most interesting Ouija Board experience was during a Samhain ceremony about 5 years ago. B*B Jorinx
The writer’s recommendation of a consecrated circle is correct. It is possible to contact the Third Order of the Golden Dawn directly by making use of an Ouija Board, provided the right people use the right methods.
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Oh, puh-leeze!!! Here we go again with the "ouija boards call up demonic entities stuff!! Look, I realized the truth about ouija when I was a teenager and first observed how easy it is to FAKE responses with a planchette. It is remarkably easy for one of the participants in a circle to take control of the planchette and start spouting garbage to frighten other participants. Sometimes this is done deliberately out of childish malice. At some rare times, what happens is that that person’s unconscious mind takes control of the planchette in order to be given voice. Unfortunately, most of us have a lot of disgusting stuff buried in our unconscious minds–hatred, bigotry, fear, etc. These are things we repress for our own mental health. When these things are given voice, the result can be terrifying. A friend of mine who has a lot of experience in this area says that the most common source of "demon" responses on ouija is the mind of someone who is terrified of death, hell, and of him- or herself. That’s all you have to fear with ouija. Keep a salt shaker handy, and WATCH THEIR HANDS!! Kiwi Carlisle
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so? Just wondering…. — The Vacuum Lady Mr. Rogers likes me just the way I am! Two strikes on spelling; let’s avoid a third. It is spelled "ouija," from the French and German words for "yes" ("oui" and "ja," respectively).
BTW, the correct pronunciation is just like you were saying those two words together, "WEE ja." It is not weejee or any of the other mispronunciations I’ve heard over the years.
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Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so? Just wondering…. — The Vacuum Lady Mr. Rogers likes me just the way I am!
Two strikes on spelling; let’s avoid a third. It is spelled "ouija," from the French and German words for "yes" ("oui" and "ja," respectively).
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Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so? — The Vacuum Lady
Yes, very often, as a fire starter. Tirion
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Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so?
I personally would use Ouija boards only in a consecrated circle. Now this is MY PERSONAL view, based only on my own experiences. Using the Ouija Board can be a bit like telemarketing or making crank phone calls. You don’t really know who or what you’ll contact and how the contacted entity may react. Come to think of it, It’s very much like posting on a newsgroup about which you don’t know the first thing. The very first message I ever posted, was a response to a really offensive post. I didn’t realize that by responding I accidentally spammed 45 different newsgroups (Lesson: read and edit your headers). You can also spam the astral plane, if you’re not careful. Some personalities don’t take kindly to being spammed. When you spam a spirit, you can get yourself into all sorts of trouble — and the Holy SysOps (a.k.a. Gods) will give you a pretty stiff karmic fine (rule of 3). The point is, I recommend that using the Ouija Board should be done in a consecrated circle, with a specific purpose in mind that will benefit both the contacted entity and the practitioner. Make sure you follow the rules of common courtesy and that there exists an atmosphere of mutual respect. My most interesting Ouija Board experience was during a Samhain ceremony about 5 years ago. B*B Jorinx
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Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so? — The Vacuum Lady
Oh please, *please* don’t consider using a Ouija board, especially if you are inexperienced! Some kids in college were fooling around with magick, even formed themselves into a quasi-coven (none of them knew what they were doing, including me!), and one night decided to try to contact the spirit world with a ouija board. Suffice to say that we knew enough to be dangerous to ourselves. Read on…. I cannot truly express the queerness of what happened that night. Once the pointer began to move, a cold breeze (in a closed dorm room!) blew out all the candles, and the sense of a definite, malevolent presence raised the hairs on the back of everyone’s neck. I quickly boxed the board and did a banishment. We all agreed that never, *ever* again would we try something like that! Live and learn, I say… Blessed be! Liz in Wisconsin
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Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so? Just wondering…. — The Vacuum Lady Mr. Rogers likes me just the way I am! Two strikes on spelling; let’s avoid a third. It is spelled "ouija," from the French and German words for "yes" ("oui" and "ja," respectively).
Could’ve just been a rather collossal typo of mammoth proportions, you know. Don’t put her down for something so trivial… However…I have only one standard piece of advice for people who want to use Ouija boards for ANY reason… DON’T!!! Take it from me, it might work just great for some people but if *anything* goes bad, it can get *really* bad. My hubby and I used a Ouija board over three years ago…we are STILL feeling the repercussions of the action and it nearly destroyed both of us. I know it sounds dramatic, but if you’re interested in knowing what happened write me. I don’t want other people going through what we are still going through… Gwynne ni Brid Witch who uses Ouija boards as scratching posts
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so? Just wondering…. — The Vacuum Lady Mr. Rogers likes me just the way I am! Two strikes on spelling; let’s avoid a third. It is spelled "ouija," from the French and German words for "yes" ("oui" and "ja," respectively). BTW, the correct pronunciation is just like you were saying those two words together, "WEE ja." It is not weejee or any of the other mispronunciations I’ve heard over the years.
Sorry, I was typing fast and screwed up the spelling. But I know how to pronounce it, thanks. — The Vacuum Lady Mr. Rogers likes me just the way I am!
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: : Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so? : : Just wondering…. : However…I have only one standard piece of advice for people who want : to use Ouija boards for ANY reason… : DON’T!!! To add to this great post – please see previous post for entire message from CHurchill/Hancock – ouija attracts lowlevel, negative energy entities. You don’t want to fool with that. There are ways to use this form of divination by following some alleged safety procedures – but nothing is guaranteed. damfino http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2047 <– Black Blade cybercomic Pt.1 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ODD <– Black Blade Pt.4 http://www.octet.com/~odd/IRC/30s_haven.html <– Channel HP & IRC Info Ctr http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/5808 <– The Errol Flynn Homepage
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Do any of you use Oujia Boards with your Magick? How so? Just wondering…. — The Vacuum Lady Mr. Rogers likes me just the way I am!
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