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A plea for Linda G to get help

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Hi Cate! Its a little busy in here but, you can have my support!  Rah, Rah, Rah, Cate! Thump.  That was my brain.  Just half of it though.  The other half is still recovering from a panic attack.  LOL.  You don’t want that – it still looks a little like a raisinette.

hehe. You’re feeling better now, though? My brain has never been a raisinette. It seems to prefer thick, wooly, gelatinous substances. Anyway, please take care – nice to talk to you again. Carrie ;-)

you too, cate

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Are you anywhere near New Jersey? I might be able to help you with that type of support. ;-) I do accupressure massage and I’m told I’m rather good at it. Hugs from the Serial Hugger, Ralph

LOL! Do you have a Noo Joisey accent? Unfortunately, I’m far up north in the frozen hinterlands of Canada. : ) cate

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<The stopping of personal attacks in subject lines is pretty salient. Gee Bob, I just don’t see this as being an attack. Maybe it’s just you thinking that.

Stop trying to be clever.. Im not talking about me and you know it.. There is clearly no reasoning with you. You just WANT to cause trouble and I am an idiot for not realising you are being deliberately obtuse.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HoPPer

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <The lady has a perfectly adequate doctor and pdoc < Maybe so, but she has to show her problems to him to get help. She has to acknowledge something is off with her before anything will change. This was the reason I posted to her in the first place, not out of hate, but in the hope that many would come forward and tell her the same thing. I know she will not take anything I say serious. I wish that Zero had not posted in the way he did, it didn’t help, but I don’t think he thought I was serious. I wish that you had not deflected the subject yourself.  In all fairness, I asked for the people that agreed with me, that felt that Linda was displaying signs of increased instability. to post a reply. I had hoped that seeing others tell her this would help her. I know that more feel this way than the few that replied, but I think they don’t want to be a future target of abuse. I really don’t blame them. She has certainly done that to me. <You may well have the best of intentions but others do not and find things <said in the past unforgivable.. Bob, I can show you the email that started Linda thinking I was evil and out to get her. I have apologized for what I said to her many times.

I wasnt referring to just your attacks Hopper. The root cause of this is female arguments IMO She indicates that if I would just apologize, everything would be all right. I do and she spits on me. It’s her that finds things said in the past unforgivable. That’s the reason I asked for help from others in this thread.

It would have been better to let sleeping dogs lie .. You have spun this thread around now so that it is no longer a helping hand held out to Linda, but an insult.

the fact that its percieved so is not my doing.. why cant you just accept the group has a better atmosphere and is starting to be supportive again? Bob, I don’t like the things that Linda G does, but I still don’t hate her. When I flame back at her, I do it because I think letting her get away with it is bad for her. Most people would call me a fool for feeding the trolls.. Xlilt0n used to have a fit when I did this, but I have always done it for a reason. If I really didn’t care for Linda, I would just kill file her each day and forget about her. I would not feed the problem.

You can only reach out to people who wish you to.. Perhaps that is the only thing I can do, but I thought it would be nice to try one more time. It didn’t help, so now I will go back to doing more helpful things and stop wasting my time.

thats a good idea.. there are many withou the track record and history of hostility between you and Linda G. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HoPper

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to newbies with supportive massages. I have not caused any Hey, where’s my supportive massage? Could sure use one. ; ) cate

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to newbies with supportive massages. I have not caused any Hey, where’s my supportive massage? Could sure use one. ; ) cate

Hi Cate! Its a little busy in here but, you can have my support!  Rah, Rah, Rah, Cate! Thump.  That was my brain.  Just half of it though.  The other half is still recovering from a panic attack.  LOL.  You don’t want that – it still looks a little like a raisinette. Speaking of brain.  They say we only use 10% of ours.  Hmmm.  So who is this new poster using the screen name %.  What does that say?  LOL.  Just kidding.  I don’t want to use all my brain at this point in the game.  Next life.  I know I had past lives, not sure what I was in them, but I was here. I think 4000 or 5000 years ago. Lord, now I sound like the other side of my brain has turned into a raisinette. Anyway, please take care – nice to talk to you again. Carrie ;-)

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Are you anywhere near New Jersey? I might be able to help you with that type of support. ;-) I do accupressure massage and I’m told I’m rather good at it. Hugs from the Serial Hugger, Ralph – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – to newbies with supportive massages. I have not caused any Hey, where’s my supportive massage? Could sure use one. ; ) cate

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< Bob, I’m hurt. Just because you want to believe this, < <Its not a question of belief but well documented threats to do harm <culminating in crazy suggestions to sue her psychiatrist for not agreeing <with you and your misperceptions. I have not threatened to harm her or sue her pdoc. Perhaps you are thinking of someone else.

Didnt mean to suggest for a moment that YOU personally had.. just pointing out its silly to say she only "feels" attacked and is paranoid. What I want in the end is to have a supportive newsgroup. We are starting to have that, and I have worn my fingers to the bone, replying to newbies with supportive massages.

Im sure nobody doubts thats what you *want*..certainly not me  I have not caused any flames here.

The subject line is perceived as flamebait whether you meant it or not.. which is why I said its self-defeating  It was Linda stopping her posts that made the difference, that and another person being nice.

The stopping of personal attacks in subject lines is pretty salient. We would like to see exactly the same thing Hopper..a supportive atmosphere as far as is possible in an unmoderated group. waving a red rag in front of a bull doesnt help this. peace, Bob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hopper

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far too much water has gone under the bridge and too many harsh things been said on both sides.  Funny, since I’ve been coming here I’ve noticed the MOST trouble has come from non-bipolar’s (except Fred) intruding on a group they don’t BELONG in.

a mirror image of the criticisms made of bipolars on the med group which led to this flamewar  Get real, Bob. CyberBeastress is a fucking sicko creep who ABUSES in a way she could *only* get away with while online, because if she tried that shit irl, face to face, in a group – anywhere – 9 out of 10 would rip her face off just to puke down her throat – no shit.

dont sit on the fence now.. Ok kiddies, today we’re going to learn internet newsgroups 101: One BIG thing to NOT do when online, is to go to a bipolar mental illness group to taunt & harass the MEMBERS.

a public unmoderated alt. group doesnt have members only subscribers..

bipolars are full of anger without any help as you know well Another equally sickening (& evil) thing to do is to post stupid smelly carp fish messages (actually, ANY kind) to a bipolar newsgroup & then cross-post these same idiotic posts to the entire fucking world, causing readers to believe it was a bipolar sufferer perpetrating this EVIL.

Not everyone shares your definition of evil.. particularly when not a word has been said about posting instructions on the making of pipe bombs.. It seems this is acceptable. When are you & your two sicko ( & MOST importantly,***non-bipolar*** ) buddies who plague this group going to comprehend these FACTS? Ever notice how SUPPORT FLOURISHES in this group when there aren’t any non-bipolar’s taking a dump here, hmm?

Do you think this accidental? Have YOU not noticed these threads of Hoppers such as this one destroy that atmosphere? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If not, take a LQQK.   Zero1 "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly I’m crying"  I Am The Walrus  Lennon/McCartney

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – < I have tried to convince Linda G that she is presenting many symptoms < of some sort of illness. Paranoia, confused writing, and a feeling of < being attacked by everyone. < <Dont be ridiculous .. <she has been under continual assault by you and your cronies <and still is.. <this thread is just the latest attempt. Bob, I’m hurt. Just because you want to believe this,

Its not a question of belief but well documented threats to do harm culminating in crazy suggestions to sue her psychiatrist for not agreeing with you and your misperceptions.  you should give me a chance. I have given you a chance. Your brand of help is to encourage bad behavior that just helps justify that behavior in your wing warmers.

utter garbage.. I don’t know who you are Bob, never have, but I go with my gut feeling, and it says that you mean these women no go will.

Facts are more reliable than your shifting feelings  Be that as it may, you could have just this once said nothing. She says she is leaving, and I have not a problem with her if she is,

If that were true you wouldnt have started such a self-defeating thread as this! She has already told you she gets the best help that money can buy. You are in no position to second guess posters doctors and psychiatrists.  and I hope to see her back, better adapted to the world.

you are clueless as to other posters adaptation to the world  You are not striving for that goal, so if you want to count friend, I am a better friend to her than you will ever be.

You concentrate on your own goals friendship is only possible between equals..you seem to have a totally illusory feeling of superiority.. But you have broad shoulders, you can take it. Now stand aside and let her make some decisions on her own.

 I suggest you take your own advice instead of starting threads such as this – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hopper

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Way to go, Ex-lax.  Did it occur to you that this was a SUPPORTIVE post?  Must you fan the flames yet again?  Hopper ONLY wants to help. This was a serious post you shat on.  Feel good about that?  Or were you drunk again. Linda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have tried to convince Linda G that she is presenting many symptoms of some sort of illness. Paranoia, confused writing, and a feeling of being attacked by everyone. Dont be ridiculous .. she has been under continual assault by you and your cronies and still is.. this thread is just the latest attempt. I would like to ask Linda G to consider that she is suffering from a troubled mind and needs help. Im afraid she still prefers to trust the opinions and advice of her psychiatrist and doctor.. I know that she will not believe me, and hates me and my opinions so I am asking for everyone that feels that she should go get some professional help, to post a reply here telling her so. Please don’t be rude or insulting. She does not need that. She needs about a hundred post supporting her and asking her to consider getting help. Sounds like YOU feel you need a hundred posts to support your declared and documented intent to try to gather "a movement" drive her off usenet! Please help me help her by replying to this post. She had told you a million times that your "help" is unwanted and unwelcome as others have told you… far too much water has gone under the bridge and too many harsh things been said on both sides. She has you killfiled.. Better to leave her alone and go about your own business than to inflame her with threads such as this..IMO the personal attacks have stopped.. why start them up again? regards, Bob

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<Do you think this accidental? <Have YOU not noticed these threads of Hoppers such as this one destroy that <atmosphere? This makes no sense.

Perhaps not if you are unaware of the work and effort put in to try to re-establish the supportive atmosphere that actually everyone claims to want.  This thread was an ernest plea to Linda. You don’t believe that because it doesn’t fit in the way you see the world. Your plan to help people appears to be to go along with whomever is the underdog, and agree with all the abuse they dish out while offering you approval for this behavior. I don’t believe in this method of support.

Not at all … I spent a great deal of effort persuading people that if they stopped posting threads with others names in then people would stop posting about them.. after a few hiccups that was achieved and now you start a thread with Lindas name in encouraging throughly antagonistic bipolars a lot of whom perhaps feel like Zero1 without saying it overtly… to say she needs "help" perhaps you dont see this is restarting it all up again but it is.. I believe in calling a kettle and kettle.  I believe in taking responsibility for my action.  I believe in acting like an adult. When I have said harsh things most have been for a good reason, the few I said from frustration and losing my cool. The post you refer to means exactly what it said, no hidden message. No adversarial posture.

Perhaps but you saw Zero1s response an indication of the hostility and wounds reopened by such "discussions" "fu*king sicko creep" "puke down her throat" do you seriously expect anyone to see that as expressions of "help" ? Leave it alone. See if the amazing can work. What do you have to loose. Are you afraid that a huge number of bipolars will speak out to Linda,

bipolars have been fighting with her and suggesting all sorts for months on the med group… It has all stopped and there is no reason to start it all up again..  suggest that see needs to calm down, Paradoxically such threads simply inflame maybe see a doctor. The lady has a perfectly adequate doctor and pdoc You may well have the best of intentions but others do not and find things said in the past unforgivable.. and you provide a platform for the expression of such. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hopper

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have tried to convince Linda G that she is presenting many symptoms of some sort of illness. Paranoia, confused writing, and a feeling of being attacked by everyone. I would like to ask Linda G to consider that she is suffering from a troubled mind and needs help. I know that she will not believe me, and hates me and my opinions so I am asking for everyone that feels that she should go get some professional help, to post a reply here telling her so. Please don’t be rude or insulting. She does not need that. She needs about a hundred post supporting her and asking her to consider getting help. Please help me help her by replying to this post. Thanks everyone. Hopper

Yep. and your a good man Hopper. Remove the **** from my address for email replies…. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I have tried to convince Linda G that she is presenting many symptoms of some sort of illness. Paranoia, confused writing, and a feeling of being attacked by everyone.

Dont be ridiculous .. she has been under continual assault by you and your cronies and still is.. this thread is just the latest attempt. I would like to ask Linda G to consider that she is suffering from a troubled mind and needs help.

Im afraid she still prefers to trust the opinions and advice of her psychiatrist and doctor.. I know that she will not believe me, and hates me and my opinions so I am asking for everyone that feels that she should go get some professional help, to post a reply here telling her so. Please don’t be rude or insulting. She does not need that. She needs about a hundred post supporting her and asking her to consider getting help.

Sounds like YOU feel you need a hundred posts  to support your declared and documented intent to try to gather "a movement" drive her off usenet! Please help me help her by replying to this post.

She had told you a million times that your "help" is unwanted and unwelcome as others have told you… far too much water has gone under the bridge and too many harsh things been said on both sides. She has you killfiled.. Better to leave her alone and go about your own business than to inflame her with threads such as this..IMO the personal attacks have stopped.. why start them up again? regards, Bob

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Please listen Linda. People are trying to help you.

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far too much water has gone under the bridge and too many harsh things been said on both sides.

 Funny, since I’ve been coming here I’ve noticed the MOST trouble has come from non-bipolar’s (except Fred) intruding on a group they don’t BELONG in.  Get real, Bob. CyberBeastress is a fucking sicko creep who ABUSES in a way she could *only* get away with while online, because if she tried that shit irl, face to face, in a group – anywhere – 9 out of 10 would rip her face off just to puke down her throat – no shit. Ok kiddies, today we’re going to learn internet newsgroups 101: One BIG thing to NOT do when online, is to go to a bipolar mental illness group to taunt & harass the MEMBERS. Another equally sickening (& evil) thing to do is to post stupid smelly carp fish messages (actually, ANY kind) to a bipolar newsgroup & then cross-post these same idiotic posts to the entire fucking world, causing readers to believe it was a bipolar sufferer perpetrating this EVIL. When are you & your two sicko ( & MOST importantly,***non-bipolar*** ) buddies who plague this group going to comprehend these FACTS? Ever notice how SUPPORT FLOURISHES in this group when there aren’t any non-bipolar’s taking a dump here, hmm? If not, take a LQQK.   Zero1 "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly I’m crying"  I Am The Walrus  Lennon/McCartney

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OOps.  Sorry if I made things worse.  <sigh. — ~Shib~ keeping mouth shut and fingers tied from now on on this topic

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have tried to convince Linda G that she is presenting many symptoms of some sort of illness. Paranoia, confused writing, and a feeling of being attacked by everyone. Dont be ridiculous .. she has been under continual assault by you and your cronies and still is.. this thread is just the latest attempt. I would like to ask Linda G to consider that she is suffering from a troubled mind and needs help. Im afraid she still prefers to trust the opinions and advice of her psychiatrist and doctor.. I know that she will not believe me, and hates me and my opinions so I am asking for everyone that feels that she should go get some professional help, to post a reply here telling her so. Please don’t be rude or insulting. She does not need that. She needs about a hundred post supporting her and asking her to consider getting help. Sounds like YOU feel you need a hundred posts  to support your declared and documented intent to try to gather "a movement" drive her off usenet! Please help me help her by replying to this post. She had told you a million times that your "help" is unwanted and unwelcome as others have told you… far too much water has gone under the bridge and too many harsh things been said on both sides. She has you killfiled.. Better to leave her alone and go about your own business than to inflame her with threads such as this..IMO the personal attacks have stopped.. why start them up again? regards, Bob

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have tried to convince Linda G that she is presenting many symptoms of some sort of illness. Paranoia, confused writing, and a feeling of being attacked by everyone. I would like to ask Linda G to consider that she is suffering from a troubled mind and needs help. I know that she will not believe me, and hates me and my opinions so I am asking for everyone that feels that she should go get some professional help, to post a reply here telling her so. Please don’t be rude or insulting. She does not need that. She needs about a hundred post supporting her and asking her to consider getting help. Please help me help her by replying to this post.  Thanks everyone. Hopper

I haven’t posted here long, but much of this seems evident to me as well. At the same time, she also seems to be a wonderful and caring person who is simply very troubled. I would like to join in the plea.  I hate to see anyone suffer.  – ~Shib~

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Denial is an entrenched state of mind. I hope that effective help is possible. Please help me help her by replying to this post.

Love, Lynda Be alert – the world needs more lerts.

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