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Ellidiot

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"I married your mother because I wanted children, imagine my disappointment when you came  along."  – Groucho Marx

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"Just how many more times can one hit their head against a wall before they pass out and die?" Although I don’t know the answer to that, from the looks of postings on here, I’m probably going to find out…. lol. G

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – communication, so pecked out: Steve:  cognitive-behavioral therapy (just one of many kinds – has been the most studied method and DOES yield good results – I defy you to find info. to the contrary…) is not what "makes people happy".  Boiled down, people make themselves happy.  Learning many things, as I’m sure you have over the years, allows us to figure out what makes us less happy or more happy. Cog-Beh. therapy is just a tool to help people stop thinking (and thus behaving/acting) in ways which make them stress more and thus make them less happy.  They stop because they learn to substitute more rational and non-anxiolytic thoughts.  It does take some practice, but is completely do-able. Why don’t you try it?  What do you have to lose? Alice won’t even look it up, let alone try it. Just how many times has it been explained that his perception and what it is are very different things? Just how many more times can one hit their head against a wall before they pass out and die? If you had a higher level of verbal accountability than what is present in this forum (let’s say you were going to a learning seminar and having lunch with all the people on this newsgroup..) would you continue to pursue this dialogue? I just laughed out loud.  I know you’re trying to reason with (and help) the old fart, but I’d suspect he’s checked himself back into Sunnydale Farms ’cause he’s in a melt down. "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be." –Abraham Lincoln (1809 – 1865) "I married your mother because I wanted children, imagine my disappointment when you came  along."  – Groucho Marx — Elliott remove yourshoes to email http://www.unitedmedia.com/creators/ballardst/ If you want a new idea, read an old book.

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Steve:  cognitive-behavioral therapy (just one of many kinds – has been the most studied method and DOES yield good results – I defy you to find info. to the contrary…) is not what "makes people happy".  Boiled down, people make themselves happy.  Learning many things, as I’m sure you have over the years, allows us to figure out what makes us less happy or more happy. Cog-Beh. therapy is just a tool to help people stop thinking (and thus behaving/acting) in ways which make them stress more and thus make them less happy.  They stop because they learn to substitute more rational and non-anxiolytic thoughts.  It does take some practice, but is completely do-able. Why don’t you try it?  What do you have to lose? As a complete aside, most (perhaps not all, but "most") happy people don’t spend tons of time and energy arguing with someone about something, particularly someone they don’t even know.  I know a fair number of happy people, some of them are almost annoyingly sunny, and none of them do that. If you had a higher level of verbal accountability than what is present in this forum (let’s say you were going to a learning seminar and having lunch with all the people on this newsgroup..) would you continue to pursue this dialogue?  You obviously don’t have to provide an answer to that, but you might want to consider the idea. G "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be." –Abraham Lincoln (1809 – 1865)

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As for your argument about driving van and complaining about the air, I simply can’t afford to drive anything else when it comes to making a buck. Its totally a different story when governments  can’t mandate or encourage better fuel efficient energy or make polluters who make billions clean the air  faster and this is a complaint by many organizations not just me . I don’t hear them  complaining about truck drivers or bus drivers who have to drive these things to survive or people who can’t choose to buy a hybred, If I had the money I would very much love to buy a hybred.  so your arument is lame again…..so here again hypocrite your out to lunch. You remind me so much of the people who really destroy life, the people who should have understood what it was like to have anxiety and turned your life to criticizing those who really tried to deal with it.You really don’t in my view have an understanding of anxiety , because you can’t rationalize emotions all the time as you think you can,with cognitive thought. Sometimes its great to put a chemical solution to it or to blame the people that actually want to make sense of this very bad condition by talking about what will or might work for people. There are billions of people who now understand the effects of global warming etc and there are millions of people with anxiety . You criticized me for complaining or giving reasons why both happened, and you did it because you have a real power trip issue and anger issue thing. And I advise you to try to deal with those things and not worry whether your better then me. I feel very secure in knowing you are there Elliott and I think your very unhappy in a deeper sense then I ever will be. I am very unhappy about some things and very happy about others. I have learned to write about my anger and then moveon with my life. I am very lucky to have had support from where I can get it. Many many people with anxiety are going to lived shortened lives and lives with anger they can’t deal with ( hint hint). or end up in rehab or jail Cognition might be ok if they find a really good one but if your the example of what it has done for people so far, I think the thousands of people who might read these threads would do allot better looking into a good psycho therapist instead  who understand family friends, anxiety , adrenaline and get this ,the past…then buzz words like cognition. To me your the perfect reason what goes on in the world continues. Even people who get sick from same conditions take it upon themselves to criticizie others most of the day, says what a hypocrite is all about and why change , good change takes soo long.. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – perfect example of what cognitive therapy can do  for you. Happy and content and he found ten idiots like himself here thinking cognitive therapy  is what made him so happy. Millions of people in the world and we got a few dolts like Elliott  a hypocriticalidiot  criticizing others who actually talk about why they are  anxious as opposed to him who touts everything that has nothing to do with treating real causes and effects.Pills and cognitive therapy. Wait tell him to get those links where they make studies about how cognitive therapy is number one in the world.  And listen to his one liners, someone like Elliott with one liners Its because he is soo happy boy.. what I would do to be like him. drats…boo hoooooo

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Steve? yer too twisted for color TV.

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"Just how many more times can one hit their head against a wall before they pass out and die?" Although I don’t know the answer to that, from the looks of postings on here, I’m probably going to find out…. lol. G

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perfect example of what cognitive therapy can do  for you. Happy and content and he found ten idiots like himself here thinking cognitive therapy  is what made him so happy. Millions of people in the world and we got a few dolts like Elliott  a hypocriticalidiot  criticizing others who actually talk about why they are  anxious as opposed to him who touts everything that has nothing to do with treating real causes and effects.Pills and cognitive therapy. Wait tell him to get those links where they make studies about how cognitive therapy is number one in the world.  And listen to his one liners, someone like Elliott with one liners Its because he is soo happy boy.. what I would do to be like him. drats…boo hoooooo

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