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"The Death Instinct" and the Technological Man

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 Catallus,you catalyst…:) You  single-handedly put into words what I have been seeing and trying to articulate  for so long.Thank you.Please write to me,I’d like to carry on a discussion, with you,maybe I might be able to learn from you.Thanks.And I am genuine.hard to tell with 1’s And 0’s,but your post touched me deep inside.thanks. Underground Panther.. p.s. Underground Panther is a legendary creature of Native American myths,He lives in Lake Erie (a horribly polluted lake now) as a copper scaled antlered dragon/cat  combo that is huge,made of fire he boils the lake.. his real name is Misspissi,Mishupeshu..He rose up through Niagara falls,as a winged  white lion made of flame flying like a shooting star. He watches humans in his ‘transparent’ form in trees a small plume of flame on his tail is his only sign in that form..He is a walker between all worlds.An amazing mythic panther who knows the tricks of liars,manipulators and bullies,he can walk undetected by the corrupt ,by acting just like they do, living along their hells,and remaining uncorrupted,but when he is above ground,among humans and the living,he is helpful to mankind he respects life,and teaches them  how to avoid liars ,exploiters,bullies,and traps and being hurt..I aspire to be like him.And he’s feline too. :) …First Jaguar the first Genuine human being,Chilliam Balaam,was a mythical figure much like Underground Panther is. Just a bit of legend and art to enjoy.Please,Do write. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The debate as to whether man controls machines or whether machines control men started in earnest in 19th century. When Emerson said that machines, once made, make men, he could have as well been talking about 1980s and 1990s. Just when it appeared, at the end of 1960s, that the western civilization had achieved the application of the machine as machine is made to be applied as tool of conquering the material realm in order to ma nfest the soul’s code, there appeared a class of people whose essential contribution to life was contamination of any psychic and mental faculty that expressed such an interest and subjugation of Humanity under the tyranny of the Machine. This particular set of people dominated the mindspace throughout the decade of 1980s and, to a smaller extent, 1990s. The result was two decades in which Machines were winning so big as to reduce the bulk of the mind opened into absolute traumatized incognizance – and reduce human charateristics of Passion, Eros and Beauty to demonized outlaws. I am not writing this to badmouth technology, which is when applied correctly an extension of man’s creative will – not to shield Man from self-reinforcing objectively invalid and psychologically contemptible fears that reduce him in ever self-feeding loops into the Nonentity which he has been become over the last two decades, but rather to expand pioneer-like into the great wide open space to create something better than has existed before. I am writing this to speak of the psychic disfigurements that have been done to the Man and Woman in order to enable an age of unneeded, fear-sustained, soul-killling and in every respect weakening tehnological bloat that cannibalized every Function of Mind and Spirit in order to realize no great accomplishment. I speak not even of the well-documented effects on the biosphere but on the more disfiguring still effects on the Psyche. I speak of a monstrosity that is the ultimate capitulation and ultimate Failure of an era – not something kin to the promised Autonomous Piece of Machinery that Man in this era has failed to create, but something so utterly contemptible as the Technological Man to which Man has been reduced. The Man who has forgotten how to love. The Man internally crippled and internally mangled. The Man whose internal neurological structures – his mind, his spirit, his soul and his body – are as though hacked up in machinery, run through by ugly wires refracting upon each other and mangling the structures of consciousness, to inform the Psyche that in its true form runs by the Logic of Nature, to run by logic of False rationality. I speak of the interest and the disfigurement that would demand this of human being and call the result an improvement upon humanity’s basic state. It is fitting that I write this on the Usenet, for Usenet demonstrates the logic of technological man in full clarity. Eliot speaks of the technological man feeling paralyzed, sprawling on a bin, unable to take action lest he disturb the universe. This failure of intentionality is quite common indeed and can be discerned as the basic character of the newsgroups such as alt.angst; whose specialty as a mindspace consists of mangling everything in the Human Organism that might spell Hope and reduce All to a level of absolute incognizance and weakness. Since this phenomenon has nearly cost the life of someone I love, as much as it has cost most people the ability TO love another human being or to see and accept love when it comes, I cannot renounce a personal interest in seeing the end of this monster in all its formulations inside the cultural mindspace as inside the mind and emotion of all individuals. For after all, it is meaningless to speak of free will and free reason when the inside of human psyche is mangled through memetic representation and psychological mangling into absolute helplessness, until the only people who have enough cognizance and enough sensitivity to remember the essentiality that it is meant to be human beings are crippled, destroyed in their Channels of Passion that is to them available, abraded, shattered and crumble like flies into the frozen waters of a misformulated psycholinguistic medium, their insides warped into permafrost and their heads bobbing up like dried ice, while the other half of Humanity are entombed inside steely husks of downward bound minds and dead already. What is a technocrat? Someone who imposes upon the Psyche the logic of the Machine. Someone who subjugates the Soul and the Consciousness to logic informed by mechanistic ideology. Someone who presents Love, Essence and Consciousness in terms that are discernible to a linguistic mind entrained with mechanistic paradigm and thereby subdues the logic of the Psyche – the logic through which it connects to the Universal – to mechanistic consciousness. Through which the mechanistic consciousness then weaves a lie of rationality as though with dark cables across the Rivers of Passion. The technocrat is the man who subdues Man to Machine.. the man who tames the Psyche into representations of Logic suitable to the mechanism. The Technocrat is the individual who makes the Psyche that, in its natural and fulfilled form, applies the method of Reason in service of Psyche, to subdue the Psyche in service of a fallacious rationality. The Technocrat is the man who makes man a tool of the machine. The technocrat tames the psyche and puts through it the rotten wires of the social big lie – a big lie that is as objectively inconsistent as it is objectively false; but that, through induction of multiple psychological errors and violence done to every subconscious Faculty, spells perfect sense to the rational mind that is submersed in this Context.The lie can last the entirety of one’s life, or it can be deconstructed at any level. The rational mind simply shifts contexts and claims its change-of-centers by such names as growth or maturation or change of times. What does it mean by either of the preceding? It can’t tell without submersing you in its psychic space, and is typically very offended at any prodding for rational explanation. There is a very good reason for that: The structures on which it rests have been altered, and any examination with its help of the structures on which it rests is bound to challenge another Western lie suitable to the technocrat; the lie that ignorance of the psychic context that the rational mind – any rational mind – inhabits can coexist with self-autonomy and rationality. Among the symptoms of the technocrat the separation of reason and passion is first and foremost. If reason and passion run by a different logic from one another then reason is based on a premise that is corrupt. Or else the channels of passion are disfigured. Or both at once, which is indeed necessary for a holistic being that is the Human Mind to achieve before this fragmentation can happen. What is reason? A tool. A method. Something that exists to serve human interest. If the reason produces concoctions that are anti-passion, and passions are not intellectually justified, then it is a tool of interest hostile to human soul. The result of which is dual: A stuntedness of reason and a stuntedness of passion. Until eventually the strutures of passion collapse and the Man becomes an extension of interest that is hateful to human soul. Allow me therefore to take up the technocrat on his well-vaunted symbolism of rationality that he uses, not as a method of making machines, but as a tool of oppression against the Psyche. All that is logical is reducible to the basic premise, and indeed at the core of every technocratic concoction can be found a Corruption of the Psychology – corruption that is a basic disconnection from the Psyche and as such a false axiom on which the Rational edifice rests. Like the Christian metaphor of Original Sin, this Basic Lie is a place in the Mind where Confusion, Error, Fear and Psychic Disfigurement manifest in a separation of the Psyche from Cosmic Flow, allowing for an insertion of a rationality based on this premise. The irrational character of every rationality shaped in this manner can be discerned from the

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I don’t know which is the scariest thought.  That you believe what you wrote, or you understand what you wrote. That’s one of the differences between books and discussion groups. These groups are more interactive than a simple text.  I covered much ground so I don’t expect everything to be completely clear but I didn’t think the writing was that hard to read.

I have the same problem being concise.On big complicated subjects. I don’t want this to become a flamewar but if you are expecting an article from a Harvard grad then I am not that person.  Some of the article was based on my experience growing up in a ghetto in one of America’s most notorious towns.

I myself,respect you MORE than a Harvard Graduate. Why ?because you speak from experince itself as it applies to your life. A harvard grad speaks from it from a distance he m,ay use the right jargon,the right’sentance structures’ or make it look sllick but for him he can afford to make it a ’show’.Because Mr.Harvard never lived the real show himself,only vicariously.. The reason I thought you were rude is often  it’s the ‘elitist’ snob snide

folks who  talk like that.They say sneering things,play like nobody but themselves have the intellegence to be allowed to type,and they pose.I’m sorry for being harsh to you I apologize. Where I live there is high unemployment and low education.  There is not much opportunity for many of the people in the part of the country I am from.  You might have different experiences but you can ask anyone from places like Oakland and Compton, etc. and they will tell you the same thing.

And I think it’s tragic and also I think someone somewhere LIKES to keep it that way. There is a LOT of resources on this Earth, a lot of  wealth and such,plenty for all if it was seen as a birthright to eat,be safe, have healthcare, have shelter ,contribute,create and connect,instead of it being something that was given only by labor ,purchases,or selling of lifetime time.The capitalist system is not as open as it says it is,and people who have never had to choose between food or clothes or electricity,just can’t understand.A person should be able to persue things they love in life,not just the wealthy.People should share the wealth AND share the shit work. If  some hoard it to themselves and persuade others to see that as ‘normal’,and didn’t feel so greedy and such they’d be more realistic and honest when they allegedly"create oppurtunities". So Instead of putting on a show,they’d stop playing games and get thier hands dirty and live the life of most lower class people then maybe they’d think a bit differently when they experince the short end of the stick. BMW’s,big houses, nice clothes  they don’t mean as much as food or shelter,they’d understand this only with experince ..not just a politically correct  opinion..

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Sorry, if I ‘laid it on’ a little hard.  Your description of the United States as a totalitarian government along the lines of Nazi Germany struck me as a little odd and caused a gut reaction. I’ll admit technology and the pace of life is moving faster and faster, and if each of us do not keep pace then we are left behind.  I don’t think, though, that it is much different than it has ever been.  There are the poor and the well to do.  There are the takers and the givers.  There are the lucky and unlucky; the people born into wealth and those born into poverty; those born in the U.S. and those born in third world countries. We here in the U.S. have been blessed with an enormous level of freedom. Freedom, however comes with responsibilities and consequences.  We each, for the most part, are free to do what we wish with our lives.  We are where we are in life, for the most part, where we have chosen to be. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know which is the scariest thought.  That you believe what you wrote, or you understand what you wrote. That’s one of the differences between books and discussion groups. These groups are more interactive than a simple text.  I covered much ground so I don’t expect everything to be completely clear but I didn’t think the writing was that hard to read. I don’t want this to become a flamewar but if you are expecting an article from a Harvard grad then I am not that person.  Some of the article was based on my experience growing up in a ghetto in one of America’s most notorious towns. Where I live there is high unemployment and low education.  There is not much opportunity for many of the people in the part of the country I am from.  You might have different experiences but you can ask anyone from places like Oakland and Compton, etc. and they will tell you the same thing. Frasier. Before you buy.

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I don’t know which is the scariest thought.  That you believe what you wrote, or you understand what you wrote.

What difference does it make to you, Critic. Look,Whether he has HUGE holes in his premise or not he is trying to question things a lot of people tweak over,..things that make people uncomfortable and feel powerless,he is trying to peel  back the surface of what we are toild conditioned to believe,feel or think and see what’s there underneath.He is not perfect I’m not and you are not either.So grow up. YOU on the other hand want to be a snide little sneering critic ,be a bully act like an insecure twit and belittle his attempts to question, however lame you think they are  at least he’s asking,looking and seeking.YOU are not thinking yourself,you are just  commenting in a negitive self serving petty way.*I* don’t respect that way of communicating. Sorry I don’t respect a critic as valid  one if he offers no positive or even useful  feedback with his scathing comments,if he gives no insights,reasonings or information and just tears potential insights apart with a quip to be an asshole and stifle what he fears or doesen’t understand.If you have experinces that are different with the topic share it ,if you have ideas,share them,if you dissagree,share why you do.But keep your cruel snide verbal assholiness to yourself unless you want it thrown right back at you.I dispise a bully who uses langusage that way and stifles understanding and cannot deal with questioning authority or anything else,but feels compelled to be verbally cruel and irresponsible to whom he is speaking to. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You have given a good description of much of the problems that occur in a totalitarian system.  The U.S. is mostly a totalitarian state, however, it is not recognized as such since the technologies and lifestyle that everyday Americans are accustomed to exceed those of most of the world. Before mass exterminations occured in Nazi Germany there were institutions designed for murdering portions of its population. Eventually there was an outcry to not engage in suce illegal activity but to make laws that allow it. In the U.S. this trend is recognized by the government and so we have things like political correctness and other schemes meant to keep people from directly acknowledging corrupt institutions and practices. In the U.S. though there is a diverse group of minorities that form their own cultures and are placed at odds with one another just as in any third-world country except that in the U.S. there aren’t just one or two dominant minorities but an array of different skin tones, English dialects, religions, etc. This of course just gives those in power more fodder for its institutions.  In the U.S. the idea of institution seems the most significant for everyday living.  We are surrounded by institutions and are all considered secondary to these institutions. By an institution what I mean is something the government will allow you to get killed with.  Instead of democracy we then end up with institutions running the government.  Some institutions get more leverage from the government than others but an extreme case is any publicly funded university. You end up having politicians having to "respect" academic ideology like PC and pandering to "administration" types . . . this is just one example of the tail wagging the dog. Everything then becomes an institution . . . whether it is your phone, your newspaper, your local superstore, etc.  These institutions are run as hierarchical structures.  Sometimes the institutions are run by families or individuals with large wealth.  Those that wish to deal with the institutions from the outside often are required to show their loyalities like the typical gangbanger might in any ghetto of the U.S. You end up having all sorts of moral implications thusly and education and knowledge take on secondary importance.  This then results in more dumbing down and more excuses for the government to impose more and more regulations and procedures to bring the average thought processes even lower. The danger is when those in power become sadistic.  This occured in Germany with Hitler and is occuring in various countries.  It occurs in the U.S. also.  You have then persons with power targeting individuals just for the sake of doing so.  This phenomenon is largely what is refered to as a mafia but that word is just a disguise for a larger social problem. At one time there may have been socially connected communities in the U.S. that were heavily organized mostly on geographical basis.  During the early 1900’s though the billionaire phenomenon brought with it the idea of "institution."  Shortly thereafter the actual mafia took form and brought to the communities its lifestyle. That lifestyle exists today and is largely institutionalized through the use of technology like cell-phones, public roads, media, automobiles, etc.  There have even been industries evolved from this like certain styles of clothing, etc. During the 1920’s or so blacks were rioting on a large scale . . . as the 1960’s social movements formed and disbanded, these communities also took the mafia model of existence.  As drugs like cocaine and heroin became valuable commoditites the importers of these commodities began to capitalize on the structure whether living in their own countries, whether living in the U.S., or whether they simply provide the route for the commerce. Since the mafia structures took over much of the social fabric of communities naturally those already established in these systems gained most from having their systems used by those directly involved in blackmarket activities–often times involved in their own money laundering activities. The social model the original mafia brought with them recognized ethnic diversity and were designed with ethnicities in mind.  The U.S. originally was meant to be an anglo nation but during the 60’s, media began to exercise its constitutional freedoms and social change began to occur that preached social freedom and ethnic diversity. Parts of this movement though included drug use, etc. so in some sense the biggest gainers from the 60’s and media freedoms were again the same people imposing the social order they were fighting against. For an American the best time for the average white was likely the period between the civil war and the late 1800’s.  For average minorities there hasn’t been a period yet where they can said to have been "free." As technology progresses the average citizen gains but so too do those with the power.  It is possible also for technology institutions to abuse their power so that is another factor that will affect the future of America.  In America today though, one has to work in "internet time" to advance socially and gain freedoms.  Freedoms are not something that are gauranteed in the U.S.  If you want to protect your freedoms you have to purchase them. Frasier. The Western civilization is facing a transitional point. The failure of an era to create a man-like machine has resulted in machine-like man; a man run by the logic of machinery – and, like the external civilization that is extended system of disconnections from the universe, is inside an extended system of ever more sophisticated disconnections from the Soul. The weight of the internalized Thanatos – morally bankrupt, intellectually disproven, spiritually exceeded and demonstrably hideous in its real-life effects – stifles it like a mountain of tumors and has nothing to offer but violence and threats and outdated and easily disproveable falsehood that even its loyal practicioners don’t have the breath to speak well. The world can continue with the unworthy. Or it can begin to look up, down, externally to a logic preceding that of disfigurement: The Psychologic of Love, the psychologic of clarity, the psychologic of the self-creative that takes the tools that have been employed against it and make them a tool of manifestation of the Divine Will that forms the Essentiality and around which all else is rightly a part of the show. At which point the Mind and the Soul can Integrate into a Structure of Eros, and the Will becomes a self-creative extension of the Universal, and the Tool serves the Creator, and Reason is applied to Expand upon passion into a dynamic Art of Living, and Humanity as well as civilization that is its external manifestation Before you buy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One fault  I see, that only is in your  word based premise here. It is not with the idea but with the interpretation of it,and the meaning in the eyes of some people..Some people see good life affirming things in human  society (I do)and they are right partially,also society harbors deep corruption that is what I think you are saying you  want to remove right? Not human society in of itself. People get defensive about that becaiuse psyches need each other they need to connect relate and share.Communies and societies do that. Am I correct? IMO We need a society,a community, because WE need each other as humans we are interconnected and interdependant with each other AND the world. We areparts of a bigger  reality attempting to"see itself"..We formed a "society" and created a social contract based oin trust to not use,harm or exploit.It was a people made set of conduct codes to set up a barrier against exploitation and to protect each other from the dangers of the harsh world we existed in at the same time.Corruption broke the contract…This human trust  barrier has been broken long ago.The protection from the harsh evironnment,and the social respectful  trust barrier has been welched on too by corrupt people.This social trust was and is  still being violated by manipulators and bullies of many things.

I don’t speak of society, I speak of things that inform the social context, the false rationalities stemming from corrupt psychologics and sustained by extended systems of violence done against human psyche to manipulate it away from the universe and into self-feeding routines. Not harware but software; not the entire headspace but its components. Not society itself as a shared consciousness but overbearing lies of which any particular part of it that is not based in Love is comprised. The psychic inteonnectivity between minds, like shared linguistic context, allow for transmission of psychologics true and untrue, and rationalities that stem from either premise. Most rationalities that inform the social context are based on one or another corrupt psychologic and therefore grossly and self-fulfillingly misrepresent psychic reality and, to buy themselves lease on life, assail the Psyche wherever it may appear. Which demands not only that emotions be warped into representations of false dogmatism, but that the Human Beingness itself be outlaw within the mind of the Human Being – and the Clarity that is Birthright of Human Being – the Clarity of Universal Consciousness and Cosmic Love – the Clarity that is necessary for a true blending of reason and passion – the Clarity that is an outgrowth of nature and, when achieved, makes humanity an improvement on nature and not a degradation – the Clarity that unifies the Rational and the Intuitive and allows for manifestation of the Essential through structures of Consciousness, Psyche and Civilization in Absolute Indomitable Mutually Creative Passion of Genius that is our kin to the Universal Process – be an outlaw in a world of artificial crassness and fragmentation and psychic crippling that goes by the name society and profanes society with itself. Which indeed is privy to nature of society as a shield of people from fear of the Universe as it expresses itself without and within; a nature that is in no way necessary in a context true to the founding principles of a civilization – a context of meaningfully free Minds interacting to achieve their Highest Benefit through mutually creative arrangements of free fair and balanced exchange and union – but that, due to current dogmatism informing the social headspace, demands that people be turned into Cattle shorn of their Passion and shorn of their Mind, subjugating the Soul to Self-feeding fear and making Life its embodiment. I saw a show awhile back called "Survival Science" about  what it took to survive in the harsh enviornment of the rainforest. Most people cannot survive  long  in a place where swarms of mostiqoes lay eggs in your flesh that hatch into live flesh eating maggots that eat you alive slowly,a place where 90% of plant life is toxic and still water kills and crocodiles,worms leeches and other things that hurt ,parasite,eat or poison  people live in  all waters.the first thing you do when stranded in the rainforest is FIND people!! Human bodies are vunerable we have no fur,teeth or clwas we run slow we are awkward.We needed each other,and through that need community was made.

The good thing about having a practical mind is that it can be used to overcome constraints of the material world.The current model does that, by creating greater constraints on the mental world. The good thing about having a psychically attuned mind is that these too can be transcended, until the Soul has conquered barriers to its manifestation not only in Nature but also in Human Mind and Human Psyche and Social Context. It took a connected community of humans to share with each other discoveries  about which plants protected against mosuitoes laying fly eggs,and wich plants could be eaten to survive and to make cures.Shamanism is close to art healing and sadly,sometimes trickery…Society if it was not corrupted long ago by the scared little manipulating  bully boys you mention below,it would be VERY different.We need a society,because no man is an island,or can be one emotionally.We don’t however need corruption.

When people have fears things will attach to feed on these fears. One way is to demand of everyone to overcome fear individually and let parasites spread. The other is to hunt down these parasites of consciousness wherever they may appear and allow people to place their minds together toward mutual benefit. The suggested solution is for allowing those who seek Absolute consciousness to practice the Zarathustra method, while allowing others to interact on the basis of shared strengths.. At which point the Technosphere becomes a tool of manifestation of the essential, and civilization becomes an improvement on nature and not a degradation. They don’t want that,why because it blames the individual for each of thier choices to harbor thier own corrupted thoughts they enjoyed too much to stop, thier short-sighted,selfish callous inhuman decisions made.It makes them be SELF-responsible.And accountable for creating suffering. And  that shows that for all thier mouthing off,cruelty misusing of humans and sensations and indulgences they were NEVER free and never honest enough to understand freedom.It lays bare the real hurting raw suffering made by the human corrupted society of’technocrats’ thinking,lays bare the lie of control,security  found in in’patterns of sensations’ in comforting repitition,status quos and domination.

Yes. As within so without. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The technological impulse correlates with social dogmatism  as attempt by the frightened little boy in a particular kind of Man to compensate for his fear of the Cosmic Process by imposing upon it his representation. Given man’s role as creator the desire to disturb the universe is no more corrupt than is desire to live peacefully. It becomes corrupt however when placed in service of a corrupt psychologic of Fear and Oppression. The fact of the civilization as an attempt to subdue rather than coexist with and build upon nature calls for dogmatism and resulting psychological structures that are anti-natural and hence anti-psyche; that injure the psyche in its natural manifestation and make it amenable to infestation of a context that seeks to contaminate all its faculties enough to dumben it, numben it and obstruct it enough that its Soul be no longer visible enough to exist. This is not human society it is the effect of corruption on human society.Like I said WE as human beings NEED each other socially. We are interdependant and interconnected as a part of life as it is.We are molicules we are the same substance as everything  else is..we are molicules,patterns fractalized connected  mirrored ,specialized colonies of functions on many levels.

Absolutely.. And at any level except the self-creative fire there can be room for connection of false mentality. Some would say that this is only proper to the universe. Others would say that the psychic universe is what people consciously and unconsciously make it to be. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This psychological error is a result of a basic disfigurement achieved early in childhood – a disfigurement achieved by the parent’s attempt to present himself, and all the baggage that his mind happened at that time to carry, as The Authority; carrying with itself all the symbols of survival it spells to the mind as a life-and-death. Yes.agreed.Domination,authority status and control  when EXTERNALLY applied to those who use self control  harm.The internal"Veto power of a human being is what can kill the idea of corruption before it manifests outwardly. Saying NO,for yourself,is the path to the psyche’s freedom.Some people techocratic thinkers don’t remember wghat harm means and why thoughts can be sick,they need to face themselves and stop thinking and feel.All of us areresponsible for our impacts,and potentials,we all must think carefully,and look within ourselves and destroy sick things and lies.This is taking internal self responsibility.Cutting out tumors requires an operation either way,to get to it.If you don’t cut it you can die,if you do you must cut  and fuind it and create a scar.But in reality, healing hurts sometimes.But it is worth it.

My preferred method is to connect to a shared consciousness – consciousness that can only conceivably connect to the psyche through apertures – and as I see its corruption and relate it to my own psyche, resolve it both in … read more »

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I don’t know which is the scariest thought.  That you believe what you wrote, or you understand what you wrote.

That’s one of the differences between books and discussion groups. These groups are more interactive than a simple text.  I covered much ground so I don’t expect everything to be completely clear but I didn’t think the writing was that hard to read. I don’t want this to become a flamewar but if you are expecting an article from a Harvard grad then I am not that person.  Some of the article was based on my experience growing up in a ghetto in one of America’s most notorious towns. Where I live there is high unemployment and low education.  There is not much opportunity for many of the people in the part of the country I am from.  You might have different experiences but you can ask anyone from places like Oakland and Compton, etc. and they will tell you the same thing. Frasier. Before you buy.

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You have given a good description of much of the problems that occur in a totalitarian system.  The U.S. is mostly a totalitarian state, however, it is not recognized as such since the technologies and lifestyle that everyday Americans are accustomed to exceed those of most of the world.

True.Freindly Fascism by Bertram Cross explains the dynamic so well. Prison guards in Alcatraz  knew well fed prisoners eating gormet food were less likely to revolt.Slaves and some captives in ancient Egypt that could earn freedom or those who could be a problem  with causing insurections were fed onions and melons to make them think slavery was not so awful.We get fed well and our dignity is dissolved bit by bit,we work long hours for things we are conditioned to believe we need.At what cost? SAmerican culture is dissconnected from it’s community severly,sometimes families are disconnected just as bad nobody has time anymore. People don’t like to think America is unjust or full of  freindly  faced manipulators,but it is.Look how National health care reform turned out to be an "Anti- reform" of bullying restricting  HMO’s even doctors can’t stand working under.Look how the new politicians looking to get elected bring it up now..they will put it aside when they secure power,just like Clinton did. Clinton’s fling with Monica distracted the old folks with  petty morality arguments as the promise of healthcare and social security got shelved.How many people made a stink about HMO’s and politicians broken promises VS how many fumed about a consenting adult sexual affair??Isn’t that Strange???  How many refuse to demand ANYTHING that really can help life like higher wages more time off,more opputuinites and cuts in CEO’s wages,because any fool can FIRE people why get a fat salary from destroying livelihoods? Cutting jobs helps the stockmarket,they say,and who SET up this fucked up system?Not people living on minimum wage that’s for sure.Yet coroprations NEED these low wage slaves or they’d have to clean thier own toilets.  How many people make truth manifest out of government’s promises unless it’s useless fluff  like prayer in schools? School prayer isn’t as important as health care,you can’t pray if you are dead.American people vascillate betweeen silly paranoia that is overdone like aliens,or abortion,yet they fail to fear nuclear power,corrupt cults, or being hoodwinked by powerful faceless institutions if they smile and make corruption look pretty on the customer end. Did you know the FBI burns TONS of top secret documents everyday?Did you know they actually trained people NOT to read them as they go into the incinerator,These people have the higest security clearances known..what are they hiding,is it that nefarious as to train OUT normal human curiosity and concern of the incenerator workers??Secrecy enforced  to THAT extent tells me there are things they hide from us,and tons of documents don’t justify entirely simple issues of plain old foriegn to national security are not that bad.I think they do things the American people would not approve of,how many people ever find out or question? Funny they don’t  when none of us know what EXACTLY what the term"national interests "means to us personally or to the government with any exactness or know exactly what we do to get it?There is thought control  in advertizing if you let yourself see the subliminals,Government expiraments go on,big business creates public perceptions, and we never seek to know all the things we have no clue about,and people who are scared to know and pooh pooh those whoiare not satified with answers authority gives are the ones speaking loudest.with the most legitamacy.Area 51 exists,What for????But the government denied it until those satalite pictures came out..Some people go nutty  trying to find out,and that is telling more about the opressive secrecy of authority  than a single person’s  mental illness when so many people have mental disorders and people are trained to say nothing so much.. Before mass exterminations occured in Nazi Germany there were institutions designed for murdering portions of its population. Eventually there was an outcry to not engage in suce illegal activity but to make laws that allow it.

Funny you mention this, recently laws have been passed so mothers can abandon babies legally if they dump it at a hospital before it’s  4 days old.I think  for some unprepared or unhealthy mothers it could be good thing,but nobody thinks a law like that can be passed,But it has been passed already.Also the wording of laws creates many unseen unquestioned  loopholes and sins of omission,what they don’t say or say clearly so YOU understand CAN be used against you by a manipulator. In the U.S. this trend is recognized by the government and so we have things like political correctness and other schemes meant to keep people from directly acknowledging corrupt institutions and practices.

Well verbal abuse is wrong.Shooting off your mouth to opress another and cause them  psychological pain in a sadistic cruel manner is a control tactic.Racial slurs do nothing but keep marginalized people marginalized run self eseem,confidence,and reinforce the current corrupt culture’s status quos.It does not remove bullies it just gives them YET another tool.Racists are bullies Politically correct Nazis are bullies.And someone profits heavily off of that confusion any way it manifests.Mental illness brings in a lot of money for businesses. We are surrounded by institutions and are all considered secondary to these institutions.

The insitutions are bullies,for power profit and social status and play the eliteism dream. By an institution what I mean is something the government will allow you to get killed with.  Instead of democracy we then end up with institutions running the government.  Some institutions get more leverage from the government than others but an extreme case is any publicly funded university. You end up having politicians having to "respect" academic ideology like PC and pandering to "administration" types . . . this is just one example of the tail wagging the dog.

Yes administration makes demands that you have these I learned the proper way to use jargon and prove myself with the proper procedure to please university authorities degrees.To be eligible to get degrees in subjects you excell at,you must get a ‘well rounded’ education first full of non-subjects like Gym or macrame or pornography 101.And pay for it. Everything then becomes an institution . . . whether it is your phone, your newspaper, your local superstore, etc.  These institutions are run as hierarchical structures.  Sometimes the institutions are run by families or individuals with large wealth.  Those that wish to deal with the institutions from the outside often are required to show their loyalities like the typical gangbanger might in any ghetto of the U.S.

Maybe.There are gangs which have infiltrated the Navy that sell drugs to sailors,Gangs have moved  in the army they intimidate recruits and sell drugs. No highschool diploma is required to be an army recruit,andArmy folk get desensitized,trained to kill on video games and  cut thier teeth on  killing small animals.To erase thier humanity to better kill people. Gang members are shoe ins to that life if they can be loyal to the big gang,the US Govt and the elite rich.they share the same Machivellian minds. The danger is when those in power become sadistic.  This occured in Germany with Hitler and is occuring in various countries.  It occurs in the U.S. also.  You have then persons with power targeting individuals just for the sake of doing so.  This phenomenon is largely what is refered to as a mafia but that word is just a disguise for a larger social problem.

Yeah all the Bullies tolerated  in so many places they exist and are allowed to dominate,from abusive homes to school bullies to bosses who like being cruel,to businesses that use people like objects and exploit the environment,to countries that use thier citizens because old war monger leaders are having tempertantrums.The problem is all the manipulative sadistic human beings seeking domination over anyone that they can dominate.  Whites are bullies, blacks are bullies, ANYONE right left or moderate can be a bully.Religion can be bullies, media,advertizing,politicians,husbands wives,schoolkids,judges,whole countries and races, businessmen,workers internet trolls,police,criminals.Any instiution who silences opposition,manipulates,critics is a bully.Any petson who is not responsible for what they,excuse, tolerate,say or do  themselves can be a bully. America today though, one has to work in "internet time" to advance socially and gain freedoms.  Freedoms are not something that are gauranteed in the U.S.  If you want to protect your freedoms you have to purchase them.

True or suck the right ass and sell your humanity that way.Because our culture worships at the altar of dominance,commerce  and submission,salesmanship,beliefs ,control and exploitation.It’s soul is corrupt,as a nation AND  it is corrupt and dissconnected and afraid in varying degrees as individuals that make up our tainted unhealthy exploatative profit system culture built of lies. And with the cracking of the Geonome and people NOT insisting any inforation gleaned by ANY company be public domain,the right to genetic health and genetic screens again will be in the hands of wealth and business.Funny clinton said the basic information should be public but he left the loophole open for patents.That shows he is not entirely for the betterment of ALL people.Yet the public goes on with its  fabntasies of movie stars , losing weight to be seductive,ending male pattern hairloss,Whatzzups and collecting pokemon cards.

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You have given a good description of much of the problems that occur in a totalitarian system.  The U.S. is mostly a totalitarian state, however, it is not recognized as such since the technologies and lifestyle that everyday Americans are accustomed to exceed those of most of the world. Before mass exterminations occured in Nazi Germany there were institutions designed for murdering portions of its population. Eventually there was an outcry to not engage in suce illegal activity but to make laws that allow it. In the U.S. this trend is recognized by the government and so we have things like political correctness and other schemes meant to keep people from directly acknowledging corrupt institutions and practices. In the U.S. though there is a diverse group of minorities that form their own cultures and are placed at odds with one another just as in any third-world country except that in the U.S. there aren’t just one or two dominant minorities but an array of different skin tones, English dialects, religions, etc. This of course just gives those in power more fodder for its institutions.  In the U.S. the idea of institution seems the most significant for everyday living.  We are surrounded by institutions and are all considered secondary to these institutions. By an institution what I mean is something the government will allow you to get killed with.  Instead of democracy we then end up with institutions running the government.  Some institutions get more leverage from the government than others but an extreme case is any publicly funded university. You end up having politicians having to "respect" academic ideology like PC and pandering to "administration" types . . . this is just one example of the tail wagging the dog. Everything then becomes an institution . . . whether it is your phone, your newspaper, your local superstore, etc.  These institutions are run as hierarchical structures.  Sometimes the institutions are run by families or individuals with large wealth.  Those that wish to deal with the institutions from the outside often are required to show their loyalities like the typical gangbanger might in any ghetto of the U.S. You end up having all sorts of moral implications thusly and education and knowledge take on secondary importance.  This then results in more dumbing down and more excuses for the government to impose more and more regulations and procedures to bring the average thought processes even lower. The danger is when those in power become sadistic.  This occured in Germany with Hitler and is occuring in various countries.  It occurs in the U.S. also.  You have then persons with power targeting individuals just for the sake of doing so.  This phenomenon is largely what is refered to as a mafia but that word is just a disguise for a larger social problem. At one time there may have been socially connected communities in the U.S. that were heavily organized mostly on geographical basis.  During the early 1900’s though the billionaire phenomenon brought with it the idea of "institution."  Shortly thereafter the actual mafia took form and brought to the communities its lifestyle. That lifestyle exists today and is largely institutionalized through the use of technology like cell-phones, public roads, media, automobiles, etc.  There have even been industries evolved from this like certain styles of clothing, etc. During the 1920’s or so blacks were rioting on a large scale . . . as the 1960’s social movements formed and disbanded, these communities also took the mafia model of existence.  As drugs like cocaine and heroin became valuable commoditites the importers of these commodities began to capitalize on the structure whether living in their own countries, whether living in the U.S., or whether they simply provide the route for the commerce. Since the mafia structures took over much of the social fabric of communities naturally those already established in these systems gained most from having their systems used by those directly involved in blackmarket activities–often times involved in their own money laundering activities. The social model the original mafia brought with them recognized ethnic diversity and were designed with ethnicities in mind.  The U.S. originally was meant to be an anglo nation but during the 60’s, media began to exercise its constitutional freedoms and social change began to occur that preached social freedom and ethnic diversity. Parts of this movement though included drug use, etc. so in some sense the biggest gainers from the 60’s and media freedoms were again the same people imposing the social order they were fighting against. For an American the best time for the average white was likely the period between the civil war and the late 1800’s.  For average minorities there hasn’t been a period yet where they can said to have been "free." As technology progresses the average citizen gains but so too do those with the power.  It is possible also for technology institutions to abuse their power so that is another factor that will affect the future of America.  In America today though, one has to work in "internet time" to advance socially and gain freedoms.  Freedoms are not something that are gauranteed in the U.S.  If you want to protect your freedoms you have to purchase them. Frasier. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Western civilization is facing a transitional point. The failure of an era to create a man-like machine has resulted in machine-like man; a man run by the logic of machinery – and, like the external civilization that is extended system of disconnections from the universe, is inside an extended system of ever more sophisticated disconnections from the Soul. The weight of the internalized Thanatos – morally bankrupt, intellectually disproven, spiritually exceeded and demonstrably hideous in its real-life effects – stifles it like a mountain of tumors and has nothing to offer but violence and threats and outdated and easily disproveable falsehood that even its loyal practicioners don’t have the breath to speak well. The world can continue with the unworthy. Or it can begin to look up, down, externally to a logic preceding that of disfigurement: The Psychologic of Love, the psychologic of clarity, the psychologic of the self-creative that takes the tools that have been employed against it and make them a tool of manifestation of the Divine Will that forms the Essentiality and around which all else is rightly a part of the show. At which point the Mind and the Soul can Integrate into a Structure of Eros, and the Will becomes a self-creative extension of the Universal, and the Tool serves the Creator, and Reason is applied to Expand upon passion into a dynamic Art of Living, and Humanity as well as civilization that is its external manifestation

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Totalitarian abuses were what the founders of the U.S. wished to avoid.  The original settlers might have been outcasts or they might have been spiritual people.  Historically, I think both these theories are possible.  One thing though is certain, is that the original settlers would not have been allowed entry into the U.S. without having allegiance to the crown. The original settlers provided a permanent location for monarchy based trade . . . eventually though and over a hundred years later these groups diverged and the U.S. resulted.  At that point there was no monarchy but position or rank in the U.S. was determined by land ownership or acreage and so was thus an agricultural society. With industrial revolution came civil revolution and land expanision. The northern states for the average citizen must have been more free than the rigid south.  The west soon became a symbol of freedom and the U.S. turned inward until the Japanese bombed Hawaii.  After WWII society changed and the institutional power begun in the early 1900’s became increasingly powerful and established. Today in the U.S. we are living in a period where we have a totalitarian system based on an institutionalized black-market–a market much different than the prohibition era activities or the organized rackets of various groups in the past.  This market has military involvement and higher commodity values and more persons involved in transportation, manufacture, and distribution than in past times.  The institutionalization is easily witnessed by the government’s abuse of power with the FBI–and various media distractions thereto. Increasingly since the 70’s, the government has been devoting more time to developing institutional methods and techniques to promote the black- market resulting in a huge loss of life and reductions in economic welfare for the average citizen. Frasier. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   These and the events that helped established the People must face the limits of language and it’s incredible two edged power to help and hurt.They must re learn to,be genuine and feel what they feel without fear  or the fear of others stifling them or choosing the desire to dominate or escape into thoughts beliefs or subbstances habits and things and calling that’feelings’ or’identity’..People must realize they are part of the world and what they think,say and do DOES communicate to others and effects them.We are NOT brains in a jar. It is no easy task to help a humanity that hurts itself ,be sensitive.It’s not easy to say freedom means self responsibility and respect when people equate it with unrestrained self indulgences without consequences  to the point society’s corruption says sometimes it enjoys it or calls that’rights’ and ‘freedoms’.It’s hard to learn to be sane one by one.

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I don’t know which is the scariest thought.  That you believe what you wrote, or you understand what you wrote. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You have given a good description of much of the problems that occur in a totalitarian system.  The U.S. is mostly a totalitarian state, however, it is not recognized as such since the technologies and lifestyle that everyday Americans are accustomed to exceed those of most of the world. Before mass exterminations occured in Nazi Germany there were institutions designed for murdering portions of its population. Eventually there was an outcry to not engage in suce illegal activity but to make laws that allow it. In the U.S. this trend is recognized by the government and so we have things like political correctness and other schemes meant to keep people from directly acknowledging corrupt institutions and practices. In the U.S. though there is a diverse group of minorities that form their own cultures and are placed at odds with one another just as in any third-world country except that in the U.S. there aren’t just one or two dominant minorities but an array of different skin tones, English dialects, religions, etc. This of course just gives those in power more fodder for its institutions.  In the U.S. the idea of institution seems the most significant for everyday living.  We are surrounded by institutions and are all considered secondary to these institutions. By an institution what I mean is something the government will allow you to get killed with.  Instead of democracy we then end up with institutions running the government.  Some institutions get more leverage from the government than others but an extreme case is any publicly funded university. You end up having politicians having to "respect" academic ideology like PC and pandering to "administration" types . . . this is just one example of the tail wagging the dog. Everything then becomes an institution . . . whether it is your phone, your newspaper, your local superstore, etc.  These institutions are run as hierarchical structures.  Sometimes the institutions are run by families or individuals with large wealth.  Those that wish to deal with the institutions from the outside often are required to show their loyalities like the typical gangbanger might in any ghetto of the U.S. You end up having all sorts of moral implications thusly and education and knowledge take on secondary importance.  This then results in more dumbing down and more excuses for the government to impose more and more regulations and procedures to bring the average thought processes even lower. The danger is when those in power become sadistic.  This occured in Germany with Hitler and is occuring in various countries.  It occurs in the U.S. also.  You have then persons with power targeting individuals just for the sake of doing so.  This phenomenon is largely what is refered to as a mafia but that word is just a disguise for a larger social problem. At one time there may have been socially connected communities in the U.S. that were heavily organized mostly on geographical basis.  During the early 1900’s though the billionaire phenomenon brought with it the idea of "institution."  Shortly thereafter the actual mafia took form and brought to the communities its lifestyle. That lifestyle exists today and is largely institutionalized through the use of technology like cell-phones, public roads, media, automobiles, etc.  There have even been industries evolved from this like certain styles of clothing, etc. During the 1920’s or so blacks were rioting on a large scale . . . as the 1960’s social movements formed and disbanded, these communities also took the mafia model of existence.  As drugs like cocaine and heroin became valuable commoditites the importers of these commodities began to capitalize on the structure whether living in their own countries, whether living in the U.S., or whether they simply provide the route for the commerce. Since the mafia structures took over much of the social fabric of communities naturally those already established in these systems gained most from having their systems used by those directly involved in blackmarket activities–often times involved in their own money laundering activities. The social model the original mafia brought with them recognized ethnic diversity and were designed with ethnicities in mind.  The U.S. originally was meant to be an anglo nation but during the 60’s, media began to exercise its constitutional freedoms and social change began to occur that preached social freedom and ethnic diversity. Parts of this movement though included drug use, etc. so in some sense the biggest gainers from the 60’s and media freedoms were again the same people imposing the social order they were fighting against. For an American the best time for the average white was likely the period between the civil war and the late 1800’s.  For average minorities there hasn’t been a period yet where they can said to have been "free." As technology progresses the average citizen gains but so too do those with the power.  It is possible also for technology institutions to abuse their power so that is another factor that will affect the future of America.  In America today though, one has to work in "internet time" to advance socially and gain freedoms.  Freedoms are not something that are gauranteed in the U.S.  If you want to protect your freedoms you have to purchase them. Frasier. The Western civilization is facing a transitional point. The failure of an era to create a man-like machine has resulted in machine-like man; a man run by the logic of machinery – and, like the external civilization that is extended system of disconnections from the universe, is inside an extended system of ever more sophisticated disconnections from the Soul. The weight of the internalized Thanatos – morally bankrupt, intellectually disproven, spiritually exceeded and demonstrably hideous in its real-life effects – stifles it like a mountain of tumors and has nothing to offer but violence and threats and outdated and easily disproveable falsehood that even its loyal practicioners don’t have the breath to speak well. The world can continue with the unworthy. Or it can begin to look up, down, externally to a logic preceding that of disfigurement: The Psychologic of Love, the psychologic of clarity, the psychologic of the self-creative that takes the tools that have been employed against it and make them a tool of manifestation of the Divine Will that forms the Essentiality and around which all else is rightly a part of the show. At which point the Mind and the Soul can Integrate into a Structure of Eros, and the Will becomes a self-creative extension of the Universal, and the Tool serves the Creator, and Reason is applied to Expand upon passion into a dynamic Art of Living, and Humanity as well as civilization that is its external manifestation Before you buy.

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The technocrat is therefore the ultimate manipulator. The technocrat is the interest that invades the Psyche and warps it into representations of a contextual lie. It of course would never call itself a manipulator; it is Society, Authority, The Good Guy.

One fault  I see, that only is in your  word based premise here. It is not with the idea but with the interpretation of it,and the meaning in the eyes of some people..Some people see good life affirming things in human  society (I do)and they are right partially,also society harbors deep corruption that is what I think you are saying you  want to remove right? Not human society in of itself. People get defensive about that becaiuse psyches need each other they need to connect relate and share.Communies and societies do that. Am I correct? IMO We need a society,a community, because WE need each other as humans we are interconnected and interdependant with each other AND the world. We areparts of a bigger  reality attempting to"see itself"..We formed a "society" and created a social contract based oin trust to not use,harm or exploit.It was a people made set of conduct codes to set up a barrier against exploitation and to protect each other from the dangers of the harsh world we existed in at the same time.Corruption broke the contract…This human trust  barrier has been broken long ago.The protection from the harsh evironnment,and the social respectful  trust barrier has been welched on too by corrupt people.This social trust was and is  still being violated by manipulators and bullies of many things. I saw a show awhile back called "Survival Science" about  what it took to survive in the harsh enviornment of the rainforest. Most people cannot survive  long  in a place where swarms of mostiqoes lay eggs in your flesh that hatch into live flesh eating maggots that eat you alive slowly,a place where 90% of plant life is toxic and still water kills and crocodiles,worms leeches and other things that hurt ,parasite,eat or poison  people live in  all waters.the first thing you do when stranded in the rainforest is FIND people!! Human bodies are vunerable we have no fur,teeth or clwas we run slow we are awkward.We needed each other,and through that need community was made. It took a connected community of humans to share with each other discoveries  about which plants protected against mosuitoes laying fly eggs,and wich plants could be eaten to survive and to make cures.Shamanism is close to art healing and sadly,sometimes trickery…Society if it was not corrupted long ago by the scared little manipulating  bully boys you mention below,it would be VERY different.We need a society,because no man is an island,or can be one emotionally.We don’t however need corruption. One never questions the Technocrat for a very good reason; that his skill at psychic violence, reinfored by the absolute confidence that the psyche is not a valid human faculty, leaves one highly vulnerable to destruction of one’s own psychic faculties. The antidote to the technocrat, of which few people have been aware, is simply taking him up on his worldview. If you don’s believe that psyche, or soul, is valid, then try to live without one. If you believe you’re rational, then let’s check your premises. If you believe that you live by a superior faculty then let’s see what you would do if you have only access to this faculty and no other, in others or in yourself. If you feel justified by this worldview in assailing the psyches of others, then let’s see what happens to you psychologically when we trace your logic to its corrupted origins.

They don’t want that,why because it blames the individual for each of thier choices to harbor thier own corrupted thoughts they enjoyed too much to stop, thier short-sighted,selfish callous inhuman decisions made.It makes them be SELF-responsible.And accountable for creating suffering. And  that shows that for all thier mouthing off,cruelty misusing of humans and sensations and indulgences they were NEVER free and never honest enough to understand freedom.It lays bare the real hurting raw suffering made by the human corrupted society of’technocrats’ thinking,lays bare the lie of control,security  found in in’patterns of sensations’ in comforting repitition,status quos and domination. The technological impulse correlates with social dogmatism  as attempt by the frightened little boy in a particular kind of Man to compensate for his fear of the Cosmic Process by imposing upon it his representation. Given man’s role as creator the desire to disturb the universe is no more corrupt than is desire to live peacefully. It becomes corrupt however when placed in service of a corrupt psychologic of Fear and Oppression. The fact of the civilization as an attempt to subdue rather than coexist with and build upon nature calls for dogmatism and resulting psychological structures that are anti-natural and hence anti-psyche; that injure the psyche in its natural manifestation and make it amenable to infestation of a context that seeks to contaminate all its faculties enough to dumben it, numben it and obstruct it enough that its Soul be no longer visible enough to exist.

This is not human society it is the effect of corruption on human society.Like I said WE as human beings NEED each other socially. We are interdependant and interconnected as a part of life as it is.We are molicules we are the same substance as everything  else is..we are molicules,patterns fractalized connected  mirrored ,specialized colonies of functions on many levels. This psychological error is a result of a basic disfigurement achieved early in childhood – a disfigurement achieved by the parent’s attempt to present himself, and all the baggage that his mind happened at that time to carry, as The Authority; carrying with itself all the symbols of survival it spells to the mind as a life-and-death.

Yes.agreed.Domination,authority status and control  when EXTERNALLY applied to those who use self control  harm.The internal"Veto power of a human being is what can kill the idea of corruption before it manifests outwardly. Saying NO,for yourself,is the path to the psyche’s freedom.Some people techocratic thinkers don’t remember wghat harm means and why thoughts can be sick,they need to face themselves and stop thinking and feel.All of us areresponsible for our impacts,and potentials,we all must think carefully,and look within ourselves and destroy sick things and lies.This is taking internal self responsibility.Cutting out tumors requires an operation either way,to get to it.If you don’t cut it you can die,if you do you must cut  and fuind it and create a scar.But in reality, healing hurts sometimes.But it is worth it. It is of course neither of the preceding; passion is only anti-social when society is anti-passion, and if society is anti-passion then the cause can be found in memetic fallacy underlying that particular concept of the society.. Fallacy that to a part of the mind might spell "society" and "civilization" but is in fact nothing more than a meme implanted at a particularly vulnerable point in psychic development –

Yes it was.I agree.But it has a reason to exist.We need each other emotionally.We enjoy each other we like to share,to be together to play,to createand support each other,..you cannot do this as warmly or safely all alone.We may not need society in survival mode as much now but we need it on another level,to share to experince to explore create and feel. to"dance" the love to each other.In a self responsible,respectful genuine NON_CORRUPTED way. We need to go back to trust,responsibility,empathy,respecting consent and the rights of all persons to say no, safety,insight,self empowerment,justice,respect,kindness,connection and love.Not  cling to beliefs or fears about these things. Freud spoke of Thanatos as an actual instinct, a primal instinct, a form of original sin. But that is patently untrue. Thanatos is this and this only: An agglomeration of infestations and violence done to the Psyche – to EROS that is the True and Only Basic Motive – and everything that reside thereupon. Thanatos is an agglomeration of Tumors – of Cysts – of disfigurements against Life that rises into manifestation as some fearsome landfill monster and, for as long as people give any bit of it credence, Murders and Frightens and Desolates human soul.

Yes.Agreed.But how do you  break  the choking hold of a meme that has broken the mind. that we need now in a radically different form?How to erase the will to doiminate?In scared people? Thanatos is a reification of Fear; reification of Failure to Will and Failure to Live; reification of Anti-Life resident through human consciousness. Every time the Soul’s code is violated – every time eros is hindered – that’s one for Thanatos, and for as long as one chooses to Live – for as long as one has the Indecency at the long last to remain on this Planet and breathe its Air and partake of its Sublime Consciousness – one has the Responsibility to not only battle external manifestations of Thanatos but to Burn and Eviscerate them in oneself. To seek help from those who have participated in the same process. And to Never Again – NEVER AGAIN once a Basic Lie has been spotted – to Offer it Credence or to anything that may seek to grow at the top.

Yes Agreed.That is what I try to do,sometimes misguided or ignorantly,But that is what I try to do. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Technocrat is run by Thanatos. This might seem fascinating until one finds out that  Thanatos is not a being with its own essentiality but rather a reification of people’s failures.. Reification that like the landfill monster of Xfiles has the life-and-death power over people, until people simply refuse to lend it

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The technocrat is therefore the ultimate manipulator. The technocrat is the interest that invades the Psyche and warps it into representations of a contextual lie. It of course would never call itself a manipulator; it is Society, Authority, The Good Guy. It is neither of the above. One never questions the Technocrat for a very good reason; that his skill at psychic violence, reinfored by the absolute confidence that the psyche is not a valid human faculty, leaves one highly vulnerable to destruction of one

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