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I would like to be in commercials

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Since I am not union I would not be a scab right?

Oy.  Check out some of the preceding threads that talk about this very thing.  The only way you won’t be a scab, is to take non-union work.  A non-union person doing union work and crossing a picket line, is THE very definition of SCAB. — Opus (: "I’m so deep under cover, that even I don’t know I’m here."– Colonel Flagg http://www.carla.coble.com -Acting site http://members.home.net/coble/OpusGraphics -Original graphics

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:  Hello my fello actors. Its me Vijay the Deejay. You know I have : experience in acting and in comedy and improv.  Goodman theater : and secon city in Chicago. I have never been in commercials ( I : am hetero)but would really like to do the work. Now that the big : strike is here, and i’m not union of course( never done a : commercial)I was wondering if this is a good opportunity to : break into the feild. Since I am not union I would not be a scab : right? Please post back or call me at work monday through friday : (gay job) 847-808-5590 love and peice. Vejay ??? you’d be a scab if you took away a union job.  Trying to bust a strike won’t do you a bit of good in the long run. Karen

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Now that the big strike is here, and i’m not union of course( never done a commercial)I was wondering if this is a good opportunity to break into the feild. Since I am not union I would not be a scab right? Please post back or call me at work monday through friday (gay job) 847-808-5590 love and peice. Vejay

DramaQueen,

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Otherwise, what they are trying to say is that, in order for you to be in commercials, you have to have an agent first.

Um, no, I think we SAID what we were trying to say, and his question had nothing to do with an agent.  He asked if NOW was a good time to do UNION work.  Of course it isn’t, unless you really like cutting off your own foot to spite your face.  Those caught scabbing, which is what he’s proposing, will not be allowed to join SAG in the future.  Ever. Period.  If he knows the difference between union and non-union at this point, I think we can safely infer that he already KNOWS he needs an agent to do commercial work. — Opus (: "I’m so deep under cover, that even I don’t know I’m here."– Colonel Flagg http://www.carla.coble.com -Acting site http://members.home.net/coble/OpusGraphics -Original graphics

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Now that the big strike is here, and i’m not union of course( never done a commercial)I was wondering if this is a good opportunity to break into the feild. Since I am not union I would not be a scab right? Please post back or call me at work monday through friday (gay job) 847-808-5590 love and peice. Vejay DramaQueen,

Excuse me, …did somebody call? Is this my cue to step in? Okay, here it goes. I’m too tired & it’s too early to start something original, so i’ll just cut & paste, …besides, I couldn’t have said it better anyway. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FROM THE AGENCY ANGLE Written by a supervisor of talent payment at a major commercial agency: Just some thoughts regarding non-union work and conflicts, to share with all your striking comrades, but especially, with those non-union people who may read this.   This is what ad agencies and casting directors using non-union talent wouldn’t want the non-union talent to know.  The SAG Commercials contract defines conflicts in Section 16 under "Exclusivity"??.  The entire crux of conflicts centers on recognizability, of face or voice.  Residual formulas are based on compensation for exposure of the face or voice.  Now, anyone who performs in a non-union commercial, during a strike as a scab, or during non-strike times, has put themselves in permanent conflict jeopardy.  That is, if they are recognizable (not an extra), then they have a conflict.  Not according to SAG terms per se, but as far as any ad agency or client is concerned, there is a conflict.   Once they have offered their services, in a non-union situation, the producing company has the right to their likeness forever, anytime, anywhere.  We in talent payment departments at commercial agencies MUST list these conflicts to protect the performer and agent against the legal action that would result if the non-union principal then booked and worked a union job in the same product category.  We can’t risk that, nor can any actor who wants to pursue a livelihood in commercials.  In simplest terms, if you do a non-union fast food commercial now, you will never be able to do a union fast food commercial again for the duration of your commercial career.  The best choice: never perform as a principal in a non-union commercial.  It will haunt you, forever.  Keep up the flow of truth and honor. — A supervisor of talent payment at a major commercial talent agency

That was only ONE of a host of solid reasons why one should not SCAB during this labour dispute. Hope that brings an additional perspective as to why some non-union actors choose never to do non-union commercials, …strike or no strike. Drama Queen — "A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes."                                                    –Hugh Downs

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You Typed: Um, no, I think we SAID what we were trying to say, and his question had nothing to do with an agent. He asked if NOW was a good time to do UNION work. Of course it isn’t, unless you really like cutting off your own foot to spite your face. QQQQ I understand everyone. If you did, you would realize that VJ is new in the industry, and insteas of alienating him we should embrace him. We should teach him the difference between union and non-union since it is evidevt that he does not know.  My understanding is that he has only good intentions,like John Rocker, about our industry. Otherwise he would not ask for our approval. Please my fellow SAG members, teach this camel racer the differencde between right and wrong. Jeff Klinger * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Hi Drama Queen , Chandler. We all know the difference between Union and non-union, but it seems VJ doesn’t. A lot of these sand mokey’s are not as smart as us ( non- heteros) but its not their fault, I mean I’ve been in SAG/AFTRA for 7 years now and can’t even remember how excited I was when I first joined or even got close. I mean if it was’nt for my religios beliefs I probably never would have gotten work. Right? VJ just doesn’t know yet, so lets help him. Jeff

Ahhh, excuse me. What do you mean by *US* non-heteros? Sorry my dear, I am hetero, extremely hetero, …just rather picky. Drama Queen — "A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes."                                                    –Hugh Downs

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Hi Drama Queen , Chandler. We all know the difference between Union and non-union, but it seems VJ doesn’t. A lot of these sand mokey’s are not as smart as us ( non- heteros) but its not their fault, I mean I’ve been in SAG/AFTRA for 7 years now and can’t even remember how excited I was when I first joined or even got close. I mean if it was’nt for my religios beliefs I probably never would have gotten work. Right? VJ just doesn’t know yet, so lets help him. Jeff * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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: and non-union since it is evidevt that he does not know.  My : understanding is that he has only good intentions,like John : Rocker, about our industry. Otherwise he would not ask for our : approval. Please my fellow SAG members, teach this camel racer : the differencde between right and wrong. Jeff Klinger Whoa…time out.  You complain about John Rocker, but then throw around "camel racer?" Karen :

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 Hello my fello actors. Its me Vijay the Deejay. You know I have experience in acting and in comedy and improv.  Goodman theater and secon city in Chicago. I have never been in commercials ( I am hetero)but would really like to do the work. Now that the big strike is here, and i’m not union of course( never done a commercial)I was wondering if this is a good opportunity to break into the feild. Since I am not union I would not be a scab right? Please post back or call me at work monday through friday (gay job) 847-808-5590 love and peice. Vejay * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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    Otherwise, what they are trying to say is that, in order for you to be in commercials, you have to have an agent first. Christina http://www.casting-call.net/profiles/christinaszeman.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Hello my fello actors. Its me Vijay the Deejay. You know I have experience in acting and in comedy and improv.  Goodman theater and secon city in Chicago. I have never been in commercials ( I am hetero)but would really like to do the work. Now that the big strike is here, and i’m not union of course( never done a commercial)I was wondering if this is a good opportunity to break into the feild. Since I am not union I would not be a scab right? Please post back or call me at work monday through friday (gay job) 847-808-5590 love and peice. Vejay * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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